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    Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Being announced tomorrow: (Post was written by Postiverate on a.net and he covered all the bases so I just pasted his notes)

    Nine new trans-Atlantic routes with nonstop service between JFK and:
    Amman, Jordan (effective June 5)*;
    Cairo, Egypt (effective June 4)*;
    Edinburgh, Scotland (effective May 1);
    Lagos, Nigeria (effective June 9)*;
    Malaga, Spain (effective June 4)*;
    Tel Aviv, Israel (effective March 10)*;
    Dakar, Senegal (effective June 2)*;
    Nairobi, Kenya (via Dakar) (effective June 2)*;
    and Cape Town, South Africa (via Dakar) (effective June 3)*.

    Five new Latin America routes with nonstop service between JFK and:
    Guatemala City, Guatemala (effective Dec. 14);
    Liberia, Costa Rica (effective Feb. 16)*;
    Panama City, Panama (effective Dec. 13);
    Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago (effective Dec. 20)*;
    and San Jose, Costa Rica (effective Feb. 15)*.

    The flights will be operated with a mix of Boeing 737-800, 757-200 and 767-300ER aircraft, with 737s and 757s serving Latin America and 757s and 767s flying across the Atlantic. The airline’s 2008 expansion will be aided by the introduction of 15 additional Boeing 757-200 airplanes on international routes. With the introduction of 757s in trans-Atlantic service, Boeing 767-300s serving short-haul routes will be freed up to serve long-haul destinations in Africa and the Middle East.

    Also: as part of its plan to address congestion and delays at JFK, Delta will make the following changes before summer 2008:

    Metering its use of airport resources by reducing average hourly departures by 6 percent during the most congested hours of 3:30-6:30 p.m.;

    Decreasing departures during JFK’s afternoon ‘rush hour’ by shifting short-haul trans-Atlantic flights to a third bank of international departures after 7 p.m.;

    Optimizing connecting times to increase transit time for JFK customers to enhance overall baggage performance and schedule reliability;

    Increasing by 47 percent the number of Delta flights operated with larger two-class jets. Of the 204 daily departures at JFK planned for 2008, 60 percent will be operated with larger two-class aircraft seating between 70 and 270 passengers – up from 40 percent in summer 2007; and

    Eliminating all Delta flights at JFK operated with turboprop aircraft.

    Together, these changes will reduce Delta’s demands on limited airspace and airport resources until a comprehensive redesign of the New York airspace is funded by the federal government. Delta’s redesign will offer a more than 20 percent increase in available seat miles by summer 2008, with 11 more daily departures.

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    Re: Delta to announce a Major Int'l expansion next week

    ATL-ARN is loaded up. There will be much more to come from JFK and some more from ATL.

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    Re: Delta to announce a Major Int'l expansion next week

    What is ARN? Never heard of that one before.
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    Re: Delta to announce a Major Int'l expansion next week

    Stockholm

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    Re: Delta to announce a Major Int'l expansion next week

    Thank you...and that would be a nice route for Delta to have.
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    Re: Delta to announce a Major Int'l expansion next week

    Stockholm was announced today.
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    Re: Delta's New International Routes from JFK!!

    New routes listed above.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    ANy word on JFK terminal improvements? DO they have the space??
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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Quote Originally Posted by RDU-JFK
    ANy word on JFK terminal improvements? DO they have the space??
    Soon ;) and also read the rest of notes above on how DL is going to schedule next summer.

    Amman, Jordan (effective June 5):

    DL 26 JFK 1620-1000+1 AMM 763 xTuFrSu
    DL 23 AMM 1200-1835 JFK 763 XMoWeSa

    Cairo, Egypt (effective June 4):

    DL 10 JFK 1620-1035+1 CAI 763 xThSa
    DL 9 CAI 1230-1740 JFK 763 XFrSu

    Edinburgh, Scotland (effective May 1):

    DL 96 JFK 2005-0810+1 EDI 752 Daily
    DL 97 EDI 0940-1215 JFK 752 Daily

    Lagos, Nigeria (effective June 9):

    DL 142 JFK 1840-1105+1 LOS 763 Daily
    DL 143 LOS 1250-1835 JFK 763 Daily

    Malaga, Spain (effective June 4):

    Not loaded.

    Dakar-Nairobi:

    DL 128 JFK 0350-0405+1 DKR 0540-1650 NBO 763 MoWeFr
    DL 229 NBO 1930-0035+1 DKR 0205-0615 JFK 763 TuThSa

    Dakar-Cape Town:

    Not loaded.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Sounds like this will cause a lot of European markets to downgrade from the 763 to the 752W. And I would think the demand is probably much higher on most of the European destinations than the new ones being added. However the new ones should have significiantly higher fares and I would think strong demamd for cargo, thus making good sense for Delta.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Europe 752ER from JFK in 2008: (so far)

    JFK to:

    MAN
    EDI
    SNN
    AMS
    BRU
    FRA
    AGP

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    I really don't see AGP doing very well... There isn't a very large Sky Team presence at the airport for connecting flights and it doesn't seem like a very strong leisure destination either.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
    I really don't see AGP doing very well... There isn't a very large Sky Team presence at the airport for connecting flights and it doesn't seem like a very strong leisure destination either.
    Its 4x on a 752 and the route is subsidized like Pisa is.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Since most of these new routes were operated by PanAm at some point in time are these routes Delta always had rights to since they bought out most of PanAm's assets? 204 routes per day is going to put a squeeze on JFK no matter how you look at it, combined with B6 and American's new and soon to come routes there's going to be planes backed up along the Van Wyck to LGA next summer.

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    Re: Delta: JFK-AMM, CAI, EDI, AGP, LOS, TLV, DKR, CPT, NBO

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Since most of these new routes were operated by PanAm at some point in time are these routes Delta always had rights to since they bought out most of PanAm's assets? 204 routes per day is going to put a squeeze on JFK no matter how you look at it, combined with B6 and American's new and soon to come routes there's going to be planes backed up along the Van Wyck to LGA next summer.

    Tommy for PANYNJ Chairman! Anyway hopefully Delta will buy Jet Blue and we wont have anymore congestion problems ;)

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