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    Even more crap from the Dems

    They are up to their old tricks again. Tax and spend, tax and spend.


    Wednesday, March 21, 2007
    Democrat's Propose the Largest Tax Increase in American History
    Posted by: John Campbell at 7:49 PM


    Earlier today, I wrote a post discussing the Democrats proposed budget for next year. I briefly mentioned that this proposal is a sham to the American taxpayer. Having now listened throughout the day to their acrobatic attempts to justify it, I wanted to specifically tell you why it is so bad. Here we go...

    Their budget proposes the largest tax increase in American history - The Democrat's budget calls for a tax increase of every tax bracket, slashes the child tax credit, raises the death tax, and reinstates the marriage penalty. And this is just a sampling, there is more. In all, the Democrat's plan will cost taxpayers over $390 billion in the next 5 years. What is particularly frustrating about this ill-advised action is that the Democrats are blatantly ignoring the economic consequences and fiscal benefits that lower taxes have brought to the treasury the past few years. Revenue has increased in double digits the last two years alone because of the economic expansion encouraged by reduced taxation. This revenue growth has been crucial in reducing the deficit. The Democrats refuse to recognize this, though, and instead they just want to tax us to death. This is a recipe for disaster.


    Their budget proposes massive increases in spending, expansion of government - As highlighted above, revenue is not the problem, out of control spending is the problem. The Democrats, however, don't seem to care. Their singular goal is to spend more and make government bigger. In that spirit, their budget calls for a $42.5 billion increase in non-defense spending this year. Yikes.


    Their budget proposes no offsets to pay for these increases - Despite these huge increases, the Democrats offer no way to pay for them except by raiding Social Security and raising taxes. This is completely irresponsible. Governing is about making tough decisions and ending governments programs that are ineffective and wasteful -- even if they sound good. Their budget, however, has expansion across the board regardless of effectiveness. Hardly fiscal responsibility.


    Their budget proposes no fix to the AMT - In spite of their continued talk of fixing this increasingly oppressive tax, they have done nothing and are allowing it to continue to grow and adversely affect more taxpayers.
    Their budget proposes no entitlement reform plan - The Budget Committee has heard testimony from several witnesses warning of the unsustainable growth of entitlement programs likes Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Repeated experts have said that if entitlements are not reformed, in the very near future, the budget will either be completely consumed by them or Congress will have to double current tax levels. Do we really want to saddle our children and grandchildren with our debt? The Democrats apparently do.


    Their budget proposes no accountability standards - With all of these increases in expenditures, the Democrats are conspicuously silent on all the current waste in the federal budget. Instead of making the government more efficient with what it is already operating under, they are just calling for more money. I do not know of one business that operates in such a backward fashion. We need to promote efficiency and accountability -- not just blindly sign away taxpayer dollars to useless government programs.

    It is apparent from today that the Democrat's rhetoric during last fall's campaign that they would bring fiscal responsibility to Washington was exactly that -- rhetoric. We need serious reform proposals and decisive leadership, not the tax and spend days of old.

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    On the bright side, when Congress and the President are divided by party, little in the way of drastic economic changes happen. But say goodbye to your wallets if a Dem wins the White House in '08 and we still have a Dem congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    On the bright side, when Congress and the President are divided by party, little in the way of drastic economic changes happen. But say goodbye to your wallets if a Dem wins the White House in '08 and we still have a Dem congress.
    Yeah, because someone will have to clean up the mess of an unnecessary, costly war which has run up enormous levels of debt while tax cuts were given to the wealthiest of Americans, courtesy of your friendly Republican President and Congress.

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    John say what you want about the tax cuts the fact of the matter is tax revenue is the highest its been in long time. When you put more money into the pockets of the people who spend it your collecting the tax just in another form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_Turner
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    And the only prescription is more cowbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    On the bright side, when Congress and the President are divided by party, little in the way of drastic economic changes happen. But say goodbye to your wallets if a Dem wins the White House in '08 and we still have a Dem congress.
    Yeah, because someone will have to clean up the mess of an unnecessary, costly war which has run up enormous levels of debt while tax cuts were given to the wealthiest of Americans, courtesy of your friendly Republican President and Congress.
    Oh yes, the economy has been soooooooo bad under the Bush administration! That would explain why:

    1. Unemployment is at an all time low
    2. Revenue has been on the rise while Bush has been in office
    3. There have been tax cuts for all, most of them actually going to the middle class and small businesses.
    4. The amount of small businesses in this country has skyrocketed under the Bush administration
    5. More Americans have jobs and houses than ever before
    6. The middle class has been steadily growing under the administration

    We are all suffering from Bushes "mistakes" while in office, oh so much!
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    Wait, when this tax increase takes place that this **** moles propose all of the sudden you are going to see what it is like to suffer. Fact of the matter is that MR. Bush has done better for this nation than I think any one could have in the time he came in. Clintons game plan for the economy was not his game plan. It was strictly timing of his admisitration. Computerization and efficency had been taking place for ten years before that dip **** stepped into office. The economic plans he had in place were very short sighted and were bound to fall apart. George sais screw Bill's plan lets do it this way. Well this way worked and the polls show that this way worked when you look at the finacial statistics. On another note Rudy is leading by about 3.5% across the board as of last week as far as support of the poepl go. Clinton and Obama are close togethger. Clinton is over the top by .5% and the G.O.P. is still strong. No worries 08' will be a great year for us. Let thewallets of the public get a little lighter while the choke hold gets tighter by the goverment and you will see the Dem.'s go down like a Bonanza full of doctors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwafan20
    Oh yes, the economy has been soooooooo bad under the Bush administration! That would explain why:

    1. Unemployment is at an all time low
    2. Revenue has been on the rise while Bush has been in office
    3. There have been tax cuts for all, most of them actually going to the middle class and small businesses.
    4. The amount of small businesses in this country has skyrocketed under the Bush administration
    5. More Americans have jobs and houses than ever before
    6. The middle class has been steadily growing under the administration

    We are all suffering from Bushes "mistakes" while in office, oh so much!
    Oh, well thank you for stating what so many of us didn't already know! The past 2 terms in office have been just dandy. But you forgot to add #7: the war we are in. Why didnt that make the list of great things Bush has done?

    Well, say no more, nwafan20 has spoken :shock:

    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    On the bright side, when Congress and the President are divided by party, little in the way of drastic economic changes happen. But say goodbye to your wallets if a Dem wins the White House in '08 and we still have a Dem congress.

    :shock: Um, echoing moose's sentiments. We've been saying goodbye to our wallets with the war. Sad thing is the global perspective towards America as a result of the war. It'll be much more costly in the long run.



    [actually, let me back up a second....what would YOU do?? What would/could you do to improve upon what the foolish Dems are proposing?]
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    and that has made all the difference......yet...
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    Mirrodie: It wasn't at all a "My word is the end-all" I was just adding to the debate.

    No one likes war, but sometimes it is necessary. Saddam was an evil man, and everyone at the time believed he had weapons of mass destruction. That is rule enough to go into war.

    Unfortunately for your argument, our wallets haven't been drained by the war, like I stated, our economy has been thriving regardless of the war! Plus, history shows us, that after wars, the economy actually hits a very high period.

    Oh, and to respond to your backup: I would stop spending foolishly, tacking on 699 extra pages on a bill of random spending. (Iraq funding bill)
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose135
    Yeah, because someone will have to clean up the mess of an unnecessary, costly war which has run up enormous levels of debt while tax cuts were given to the wealthiest of Americans, courtesy of your friendly Republican President and Congress.
    I haven't been forced to make any financial sacrifices because of the war. Have you?
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    Observations:

    I think even Gingrich liked pork...

    Its a shame about the line item veto..didn't last long...

    Antipathy towards the USA was enormous prior to the War...sad to say...rightly or wrongly... alot of European populace didn't seem to appreciate the USA role in Serbia.

    Are these mindless pronouncements about being the last "superpower" really conducive to anything positive?

    Tax Cuts do generally increase tax revenue I believe... We need to define "the rich".

    I wonder if a larger domestic military presence (had it been available) might have helped in the aftermath of Katrina.

    According to Seymour Hirsch US seems to be getting back in bed with Al Queda Saudi types again... so much for the war on terror...

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