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    Even more waste at the TSA

    Add this to the ever growing list of airport security failures. Poor upfront planning, arguing among organizations, and faulty technology, yep sounds like a recipe for disaster, at our expense.

    Explosives-sniffing machine to be pulled from Lambert
    By Elisa Crouch
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Tuesday, Oct. 31 2006

    A high-tech machine used to sniff out explosives has been sitting idle at a
    Lambert Field checkpoint since June because airport and security officials
    disagreed on where to put it.

    Tonight, it will be disassembled and put in storage.

    The reliability of the machine, nicknamed a "puffer," also is being questioned.
    The Transportation Security Administration earlier this fall suspended the
    rollout of more units because of maintenance problems.

    Ninety-four of the machines still are being used in 37 airports for passengers
    selected for secondary screening. None of those will be removed.

    "They're all operational," TSA spokeswoman Carrie Harmon said.

    Harmon cited security concerns in refusing to discuss the maintenance issues.
    The agency says it's working with the manufacturers to address the issues, and
    tests are being run at the agency's security lab in Atlantic City, N.J.

    Lambert's unit, which never has been plugged in, is the only one being
    mothballed.

    The machines are touted as a way for screeners to find well-hidden explosives
    that don't set off metal detectors. Passengers who step inside the machine feel
    rapid puffs of air that kick up particles from their skin and clothes. The
    machine analyzes the air for traces of explosives.

    The machine at Lambert, made by General Electric, cost the federal government
    $160,000. About half of the units at other airports were made by Smith's
    Detection in New Jersey.

    Bill Switzer, federal security director, said the machine would be reinstalled
    after issues are worked out. Switzer oversees TSA operations in the St. Louis
    region.

    "We're trying to upgrade the system so it can accommodate all the pollen and
    dirt and everything at the airport and still function the way it ought to
    function."

    Lambert's walk-through explosives detector encountered problems immediately
    after it was installed in late June. Airport officials didn't like its
    location, in front of the metal detectors at the C and D concourses, even
    though they had agreed to blueprints. They asked federal security officials to
    move the unit eight feet.

    "It was set up in the middle of the lobby," said Deputy Airport Director Gerard
    Slay. "It was an eyesore. There was a flow problem for passengers."

    Airport officials wanted the machine in the proper place before putting it to
    use. But to move the unit eight feet, construction workers needed to raise the
    ceiling at the security checkpoint 2 feet. It took the airport and TSA
    officials months to agree that Lambert would cover construction costs. Switzer,
    however, still needed TSA approval to spend $4,000 on moving and recalibrating
    the unit.

    Initially, 340 puffer machines were to be installed across the country by the
    end of this year. Federal screeners began testing the machines in 2004 at
    airports in 14 cities, including Miami; Las Vegas; Jacksonville, Fla.; and
    Gulfport, Miss.

    That fall, the idea of screening passengers for explosives became a national
    security priority. Chechen women were suspected of boarding two Russian
    airliners with plastic explosives strapped to their waists in September 2004.
    Explosions brought down both airplanes.

    Last year, St. Louis was on the list of airports to receive the third round of
    the machines. Three were to be installed at the airport's busiest checkpoints.

    However, the security agency's deployment of the machines fell behind. Whether
    Lambert receives two more will be determined after enhancements are made to the
    equipment, Harmon said. She would not speculate how long this will take, or how
    long Lambert's puffer machine will be in storage.

    Aside from location, Slay said he simply wants the machine to be reliable.

    "We'll welcome the machine if they enhance security," Slay said.

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    We have these things at DTW's new terminal, the McNamara, they aren't installed at the old one because it will be replaced by a new terminal that will be completed January 2008, these things are pretty cool, has anyone ever gone through one? I have seen it but never actually went through it.
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    Judgment from one article.

    Congress pushed for the machines to be deployed. While they do what they are designed to do. The period at which they analyze is not what it should be and actually increased from when first deployed.

    TSA wouldn't accept anymore machines until the manufacturer improved the performance (make good business sense).

    I don't have direct knowledge of Lambert but I have set up a few checkpoints and where airports wants things and where they need to go to be operationally efficient are often at odds.

    Why would you spend money to move something until you are sure that you are going to use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway
    Judgment from one article.

    Congress pushed for the machines to be deployed. While they do what they are designed to do. The period at which they analyze is not what it should be and actually increased from when first deployed.

    TSA wouldn't accept anymore machines until the manufacturer improved the performance (make good business sense).

    I don't have direct knowledge of Lambert but I have set up a few checkpoints and where airports wants things and where they need to go to be operationally efficient are often at odds.

    Why would you spend money to move something until you are sure that you are going to use it?
    What do you mean by operationally efficient? Is that the case perhaps in St Louis where they didn't work and had to be moved to the middle of the terminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway
    Judgment from one article.

    Congress pushed for the machines to be deployed. While they do what they are designed to do. The period at which they analyze is not what it should be and actually increased from when first deployed.

    TSA wouldn't accept anymore machines until the manufacturer improved the performance (make good business sense).

    I don't have direct knowledge of Lambert but I have set up a few checkpoints and where airports wants things and where they need to go to be operationally efficient are often at odds.

    Why would you spend money to move something until you are sure that you are going to use it?
    What do you mean by operationally efficient? Is that the case perhaps in St Louis where they didn't work and had to be moved to the middle of the terminal?
    There are certain parameters and relationships between machines that has to be watched. As I don't know why they were moved so can't really comment.
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    "Poor upfront planning, arguing among organizations, and faulty technology"

    Have you ever worked with the Port Authority on any projects?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway
    "Poor upfront planning, arguing among organizations, and faulty technology"

    Have you ever worked with the Port Authority on any projects?...
    No but I hear they are the blind leading the blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Quote Originally Posted by emshighway
    "Poor upfront planning, arguing among organizations, and faulty technology"

    Have you ever worked with the Port Authority on any projects?...
    No but I hear they are the blind leading the blind.

    A job where you don't have to make a decision because since you are in a multi-state organization no one oversees you.

    Almost as bad as the TSA!!! (just thought I would beat you to it) :shock:
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    Haaa, this is getting spicy, more please!
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