TLC Show

[moose135]

While this seems like an awesome opportunity for NYCA, I would hate to see aviation be in the same category as this...

From their About Page

My Crazy Obsession pulls back the curtains to reveal some of the nation's most extreme and unique obsessions. The series takes viewers behind-the-scenes of homes that are dedicated entirely to the owners' infatuation with various objects, people, or lifestyles. These individuals go to great lengths to preserve the quality and authenticity of their jaw-dropping possessions and daily routines -- and, for the first time, they're allowing cameras to document their secret world of unbelievable, one-of-a-kind treasures and sometimes bizarre, never-before-seen habits and rituals. My Crazy Obsession reveals the time, money, and effort required to fulfill and maintain these uncommon passions.

The series kicks off with a couple that boasts a collection of over 5,000 dolls. With their favorite doll, Kevin, by their side, the couple plans play dates and parties to celebrate their always-expanding collection with other doll collectors. Some other addictions include: a woman who is completely obsessed with the color pink; a collector of mannequins who prefers them to real people; a wig lover with over 2,000 wigs in her possession; and a squeaky clean couple whose idea of a date night is admiring their collection of washing machines.

I think I'll pass...it makes Al Roker look good.

[megatop412]

Uhh...this is actually starting to look like a really bad idea to be involved with- we're not really like doll people and mannequin people...right? We're more like...the Nascar folks I think

[PhilDernerJr]

While this seems like an awesome opportunity for NYCA, I would hate to see aviation be in the same category as this:

(video)

First off, this is exactly my fear. We spend enough time convincing people that we aren't taped-together glasses nerds to have to deal with that in national TV (again). We've had too much GOOD attention to take a step back.

No, actually that is your interpretation of a situtation that really is just frustration from constant rejections and the unwillingness to do what it takes to get shots accepted.

1. Wow, defensive. ;)

2. The frustration, to me, comes from a site that demands you shoot "x" way, and that even though those sites have some killer photography and a long history of good thing (and bad), many people that they tell people how to perform their own art, which is the opposite of art. It's like "Arts and Crafts" workshops where everyone makes the same thing. It could be gorgeous, but it's not art.

These sites you loathe happen to also be the ones that get the most people to look at our work. Nothing wrong with wanting max exposure.

Exposure is a tricky one to me. Again, there's an assumption that people want that exposure, or that it's the reason that people do this. Some people just want to "expose" their work to enthusiasts, not to get the masses and non-enthusiasts to see their work.

From my own experience, yeah, part of me hated that some rejections were mounting up. The biggest frustration came when a majority of my time was spent cloning out dust spots. And then getting the horizon level within .1. I did this, often, even though I was completely content with my shot. Why should I be made to feel that my shot sucked because of the cookie cutter standards of another? It annoyed me. I still liked to upload a bit, but I felt like I was being judged even though I should have felt pleased. I didn't need to feel that.

It's great when you can get 10,000 people to view your photo in a day, don't get me wrong. But what this hobby means to me is so much more, that the hits become irrelevant.

Nick, I love spotting because I got to meet YOU, not because I get to see your photos. :)

[PhilDernerJr]

The show likes to show extremes, but I think we'd all like to meet this guy...



To me, planespotting isn't always an "action" hobby. It's people sitting around like their fishing, enjoying their companionship while getting some good shots. They'd probably need an additional (or manipulated) angle to make the hobby "crazy", which is what they are looking for.

I'm going to call her tomorrow and learn more. I'll report back.

[moose135]

We're more like...the Nascar folks I think

As a Nascar fan, let me say thank you.

[NIKV69]

It's great when you can get 10,000 people to view your photo in a day, don't get me wrong. But what this hobby means to me is so much more, that the hits become irrelevant.

Nick, I love spotting because I got to meet YOU, not because I get to see your photos. :)

Phil I think you said it yourself once that people enjoy this hobby in their own ways? Of course friendships made while spotting are something to be valued, but to some spotters getting the shot that garners attention is one of their goals. it's like that in every form of photography. Why are their photo contests? Why does the paparazzi do what they do?

You have to look at things outside the prism of NYCAV. Just because you find accomplishment in uploading to wherever doesn't mean you are letting anyone dictate how you shoot or what you shoot. This is complete crap propagated by a few disgruntled people.

As for the obsession thing, yea that looks pretty much like a train wreck, just like the Al Roker thing.

[PhilDernerJr]

It's silly to think I am trapped in this "NYCA prism", but I see what you mean...people can practice it in their own way. I just feel that people who ONLY adhere to the standards of other sites limit themselves. I'm sure you yourself, being good at shooting, may sometimes not take certain types of shots because your goals are to upload to Anet.

[steve1840]

2. The frustration, to me, comes from a site that demands you shoot "x" way, and that even though those sites have some killer photography and a long history of good thing (and bad), many people that they tell people how to perform their own art, which is the opposite of art. It's like "Arts and Crafts" workshops where everyone makes the same thing. It could be gorgeous, but it's not art.

Phil I completely agree with this and will even take it a step further. These sites that seemed to have come to demand that you shoot and uplaod photos a certain way and have set "standards" constantly break these standards. It erks me when I get somethign rejected for any of their reasons, and then I turn around the following day and see someone elses photo [that clearly falls in the same criteria for rejection] get accepted.

[wunaladreamin]

Steve, your photos only get rejected because you shoot Canon *ducks*

[megatop412]

This is complete crap propagated by a few disgruntled people.

I’m not sure how what I said about people obsessing about hits and acceptance to what I feel is a crazed degree translated into me being frustrated and unwilling to live my life that way, but OK.

Many people acknowledge that there is more than a kernel of truth to what I said Nick. If that makes me disgruntled than whatever, but it obviously isn’t crap. I’m calling a spade a spade and nothing more.

Telling me that what I saw in an accepted photo that was obviously soft was “jetwash”, now THAT is crap my friend.

[mirrodie]

Geez, if myobsession wants, you can do a whole friggin spinoff show called "Aviation junkies with their panties all up in their asses."

I dont know whats funnier, that you still keep idoling a certain blue site or that you keep idolizing it after having been banned from it! ROLF!!!


I dunno, but after kids, my whole attitude has changed. Yes, ramp access takes work, yes, I personally would rather prefer be closer to the action but
at the end of whether you upload or not, its all good fun.

[PhilDernerJr]

My phone call today never happened, but the light conversation by email with the woman didn't give me much hope.

I personally am deciding to avoid this filming because I think it will only shine us all in bad light. You folks do want you want, but I hope you do the same.

[NIKV69]

My phone call today never happened, but the light conversation by email with the woman didn't give me much hope.

I personally am deciding to avoid this filming because I think it will only shine us all in bad light. You folks do want you want, but I hope you do the same.

Besides none of us have a first class cabin of an aircraft in our garage.

[PhilDernerJr]

All the more reason to manipulate a "crazy" spin on our hobby.

[Big Tim #70]

Geez, if myobsession wants, you can do a whole friggin spinoff show called "Aviation junkies with their panties all up in their asses."

I dont know whats funnier, that you still keep idoling a certain blue site or that you keep idolizing it after having been banned from it! ROLF!!!


I dunno, but after kids, my whole attitude has changed. Yes, ramp access takes work, yes, I personally would rather prefer be closer to the action but
at the end of whether you upload or not, its all good fun.

BINGO!