Aircraft noise problem in Park Slope? Really?

[Flying Tigers]

This website is pretty interesting to say the least:

http://airtrafficparkslope.org/

[USAF Pilot 07]

That website has so many flaws I don't know where to start. It's at about the high-school level in terms of facts and presentation. The sad part is that people, who really have no knowledge of the industry or about how things work, will latch onto something like this....

[Speedbird1]

I personally enjoy hearing and seeing the aircraft pass over the Slope whenever I visit. They should not complain as they are all arrivals for LGA at between 3,000 to 4,000 feet. The Bronx gets the sound of the departures which is much louder. I'll be going there next week to see how they are demolishing the old Stadium. I was hoping they could save one of the gates for the new park but the City has no money.

[T-Bird76]

Considering it's Parkslope I'm not surprised about the bitching. It’s a really nice area but the residents are the very definition of Elitist NIMBYS that if you blind folded them and spun them around three times they’d be lost.

[Delta777LR]

I personally enjoy hearing and seeing the aircraft pass over the Slope whenever I visit. They should not complain as they are all arrivals for LGA at between 3,000 to 4,000 feet. The Bronx gets the sound of the departures which is much louder. I'll be going there next week to see how they are demolishing the old Stadium. I was hoping they could save one of the gates for the new park but the City has no money.

Yea thats true, LGAs Air route is more over the Bronx, see Soundview where I sometimes spot at very close to my house, is pretty noisy on departures off rwy 4 espeacialy when the traffic turns imediately left over Soundview and Hunts Point and some straight out departures over Throgs Neck, City Island and so on, also the routes over the Bronx are more populated for ILS/Visual and LDA Alpha rwy 22 approaches..

[Arinyc]

Considering it's Parkslope I'm not surprised about the bitching. It’s a really nice area but the residents are the very definition of Elitist NIMBYS that if you blind folded them and spun them around three times they’d be lost.

Fair point.... however I'm probably the one resident of the area who bought a house here precisely *because* it was under the approach path to LGA. Morning coffee on the roof deck with a 300... yeah! Dash on an Expwy visual for 31 at LGA, KE headed for JFK:

http://arinyc.smugmug.com/Photography/Aviation/20080224CasaN804EX3901/493949777_pLjdB-L.jpg

And it's not even that bad in terms of noise. Only when they're landing on 4 does it approach anywhere near annoying, and even then, seriously, they think that's loud? Those innocent souls have obviously never lived near an airport with regular Trident and 1-11 traffic.

[DHG750R]

Not much credibility to the owners of that website when they cite an a.net thread as a source. Not to mention thinking someone in the FAA thinks enough of them to target them for payback. What's sad is there are likely some who are of the victim mentality who are narrowminded enough to hop on this bandwagon.

Having grown up with aircraft on approach to 22 or departing 4, it's no big deal. It's the price we pay for living in and around NYC.

T-bird67 hit it right on the head.

[Matt Molnar]

Fair point.... however I'm probably the one resident of the area who bought a house here precisely *because* it was under the approach path to LGA. Morning coffee on the roof deck with a 300... yeah! Dash on an Expwy visual for 31 at LGA, KE headed for JFK:
Awesome shot! :borat:

Modern planes on approach do not make a lot of noise. These people have nothing better to complain about. The end.

I invite them to hang out in one of the houses at the south end of 4/22 on a cloudy, wet foggy day like today, when they are landing and departing 4 and the low clouds echo every decibel of takeoff and reverse thrust back to the earth, making every plane rumble the ground like the Concorde with afterburners... and then go back to Park Slope and tell me its loud.

[PhilDernerJr]

I'm thinking about starting and anti-NIMBY, pro-aviation organization to counter these groups.

Anyone interested?

[hiss srq]

I'm thinking about starting and anti-NIMBY, pro-aviation organization to counter these groups.

Anyone interested?
Very much so. Details detail details! I'm all in.

[Flying Tigers]

I'm thinking about starting and anti-NIMBY, pro-aviation organization to counter these groups.

Anyone interested?

Yeah that would be pretty cool. Would this be on a local level?

I could def. give you some help (it falls along what I do for a living).

[DHG750R]

Count me in

[Idlewild]

Considering it's Parkslope I'm not surprised about the bitching. It’s a really nice area but the residents are the very definition of Elitist NIMBYS that if you blind folded them and spun them around three times they’d be lost.

Fair point.... however I'm probably the one resident of the area who bought a house here precisely *because* it was under the approach path to LGA. Morning coffee on the roof deck with a 300... yeah! Dash on an Expwy visual for 31 at LGA, KE headed for JFK:

http://arinyc.smugmug.com/Photography/Aviation/20080224CasaN804EX3901/493949777_pLjdB-L.jpg

And it's not even that bad in terms of noise. Only when they're landing on 4 does it approach anywhere near annoying, and even then, seriously, they think that's loud? Those innocent souls have obviously never lived near an airport with regular Trident and 1-11 traffic.

I used to live by the corner of 7th Ave. I had to go on the rooftop to not only get the intersect (pictured) but catch the Prospect Park tree/s blocked Canarsie Approach. I have always been jealous of the residents of the Penthouses in East & West Plaza streets as well as Windsor Terrace sitting right on PPW.

[727C47]

my people lived on 124th street in south ozone park,right on short final for 13L,noise,noise,noise !!!! CV880s,and the Concorde took the prize !!! loved it !!!

[markg]

Those innocent souls have obviously never lived near an airport with regular Trident and 1-11 traffic.

Not another Brit in the NYC area??

[727C47]

Those innocent souls have obviously never lived near an airport with regular Trident and 1-11 traffic.

Not another Brit in the NYC area??
Lived in Maidavale for 4 months in 1980, under the arrival path for Heathrow,will vouch for the Tridents, (cool) witnessed the last of the Viscounts(Brit Electra wait,wait,thats the Vanguard),the last of the VC10s(Beautiful),never caught the DanAir Comet4C's though.

[Arinyc]

Those innocent souls have obviously never lived near an airport with regular Trident and 1-11 traffic.

Not another Brit in the NYC area??

Nope! :) Made in Milan, Italy -- about 5km north of rwy 36 at LIN. The Tridents & 1-11s were the BA LHR flights. They switched to 757s when I was in middle school. That stopped the windows from rattling, and stopped the fun too.

[NLovis]

Again with how quiet all these engines have become how can they complain? I live right at the in range point for the 22's for JFK. Really cant hear much anymore which I dont like. I love seeing all of these a/c fly within eye's range and hearing them. This is nothing compared to the 747 classics and the Concord. All of the sudden a thunder sound and the windows rattling. Or as I started catching them a plane flying overhead missing the sound then a few seconds later BOOM you get hit by the engine sound. Man I miss that so much. I was really young then but I remember it as if it was yesterday. That is my passion for this. Unwaivering. :borat: