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Speedbird1
09-29-2008, 07:12 AM
I visited LGA on Sat as the weather was OK (except for a low ceiling and a slight drizzle). I was surprised to see that the new Control Tower was up. I never read anything about this anywhere. I am curious about when it's supposed to be open for use and if the old Tower will be demolished or hopefully, will stay intact, just as the old Tower in LAX was. I am also curious about the height. After my visit, I took the Q48 bus, which circled the airport and visited Shea. Had fun.
Matt Molnar
09-29-2008, 10:31 AM
The old tower will be removed, unfortunately. Apparently it will partially obstruct the new tower's view of the airfield. I believe it's set to go online sometime next year.
Lezam
09-29-2008, 12:11 PM
That old tower is hideous
cancidas
09-29-2008, 01:24 PM
That old tower is hideous
i disagree. it's unique, and it's also a landmark. last time i was up in the FAA tower i took a picture of the print-out they had of the new tower. i'll post it when i get home as i've already taken it off my phone, but i still prefer the look of the old tower to the new one.
HPNPilot1200
09-29-2008, 02:47 PM
That old tower is hideous
i disagree. it's unique, and it's also a landmark. last time i was up in the FAA tower i took a picture of the print-out they had of the new tower. i'll post it when i get home as i've already taken it off my phone, but i still prefer the look of the old tower to the new one.
Agreed, it is quite a unique structure to the airport.
emshighway
09-29-2008, 03:57 PM
The old tower will be removed, unfortunately. Apparently it will partially obstruct the new tower's view of the airfield. I believe it's set to go online sometime next year.
I have been told by PANYNJ officials the old tower will not be totally removed due to landmark status. The radar will be removed to cut down on the obstruction.
emshighway
09-29-2008, 04:08 PM
News Stories
http://wcbstv.com/business/LaGuardia.Ai ... 38433.html (http://wcbstv.com/business/LaGuardia.Airport.Federal.2.238433.html)
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/que ... print.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2007/03/01/2007-03-01_new_63m_control_tower_to_land_at_laguard_print. html)
http://www.ny1.com/Default.aspx?SecID=1000&ArID=67231
http://www.faa.gov/news/speeches/news_s ... 6&print=go (http://www.faa.gov/news/speeches/news_story.cfm?newsId=8246&print=go)
Tom_Turner
09-29-2008, 08:09 PM
The old LGA tower almost reminds me of a Light House. It had architectural character (as did the one EWR).
Glad they're saving (some of) it.
Tom
cancidas
09-29-2008, 10:45 PM
here is what my future office is going to look like:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o161/cancidas/IMG00249.jpg
PHL Approach
09-30-2008, 03:20 AM
here is what my future office is going to look like
You apply OTS? Got a class date?
PhilDernerJr
09-30-2008, 03:59 AM
Wait, what happened to that twirling building design they had?
cancidas
09-30-2008, 09:02 AM
Wait, what happened to that twirling building design they had?
it was done away with, why i don't know. i'm guessing that since they had very limited space to build in and needed to add an office building in addition to just a tower it wasn't going to work. besides, that was ugly...
Speedbird1
10-01-2008, 11:26 AM
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think the old LGA Tower, just like the old JFK Tower, was beautiful. Several news articles this week said that Shea Stadium is ugly and that they can't wait for it to get demolished. I consider Shea to be beautiful. I found the neon art showing the baseball players, to be unique and beautiful. Now, it will be turned into a parking lot.
Delta777LR
10-01-2008, 08:10 PM
I took a shot today of the new LGA being built
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/sergair/IMG_3798.jpg
Tom_Turner
10-02-2008, 02:12 PM
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think the old LGA Tower, just like the old JFK Tower, was beautiful. Several news articles this week said that Shea Stadium is ugly and that they can't wait for it to get demolished. I consider Shea to be beautiful. I found the neon art showing the baseball players, to be unique and beautiful. Now, it will be turned into a parking lot.
I always appreciated the LGA and EWR towers, but thought the previous "tower" at JFK was more akin to an office building. Isn't that what it was in essence?
The best I can say for it is it didn't detract particularly from the rest of JFK, back when JFK was actually a beautiful airport, with the fountains and earlier terminals, its true.
As for Shea Stadium, I didn't mind it either as a design, but it had been become a dump internally many years ago. I also think those neon signs of baseball players were added in the 80s or 90s. Shea's original exterior was quite different (in the 60s, 70s,).
Tom
jetblue187
10-02-2008, 02:16 PM
The ATC looks awesome, Looking forward to it!
STT757
10-14-2008, 11:42 AM
I always appreciated the LGA and EWR towers, but thought the previous "tower" at JFK was more akin to an office building.
I miss the EWR "toothbrush", it was unique unlike the new cookie cutter tower at EWR which can be found at several other airports around the US.
STT757
10-14-2008, 11:42 AM
I always appreciated the LGA and EWR towers, but thought the previous "tower" at JFK was more akin to an office building.
I miss the EWR "toothbrush", it was unique unlike the new cookie cutter tower at EWR which can be found at several other airports around the US.
Speedbird1
10-15-2008, 08:20 AM
Yes, I miss the old EWR Tower, too. I guess it was shaped like a toothbrush. In the 80's, I got a tour of the old tower. The controllers' first name was Alyousis, but I can't remember the last. He gave me a nice tour. I remember that the radar screens looked ancient.
Speedbird1
10-15-2008, 08:20 AM
Yes, I miss the old EWR Tower, too. I guess it was shaped like a toothbrush. In the 80's, I got a tour of the old tower. The controllers' first name was Alyousis, but I can't remember the last. He gave me a nice tour. I remember that the radar screens looked ancient.
PhilDernerJr
10-15-2008, 08:40 AM
The controllers' first name was Alyousis, but I can't remember the last. He gave me a nice tour.
Must be tough to track him down. In New Jersey, that name is as common as Mike or John. :wink:
I've only seen photos of it. It did look old.
PhilDernerJr
10-15-2008, 08:40 AM
The controllers' first name was Alyousis, but I can't remember the last. He gave me a nice tour.
Must be tough to track him down. In New Jersey, that name is as common as Mike or John. :wink:
I've only seen photos of it. It did look old.
Speedbird1
10-15-2008, 09:11 AM
Yes, you are probably right as I toured Yankee Stadium last week and internally it's a dump too until you are brought outside. The field is in impeccable condition. I was a big fan of the 1964 NY World's Fair and Shea was built at the same time as the Fair, so it's demolition saddens me. The neon signs, as you say, were not in the original plan; they're unique. I too remember those lit fountains by the 3 chapels at JFK during the DC-8 and B707 Age. JFK was beautiful and friendly, too. Now if you loiter, you get chased-away. I used to sunbathe on the grass in front of the IAB as well as on the Pan Am Roof. Them days are gone!
Speedbird1
10-15-2008, 09:11 AM
Yes, you are probably right as I toured Yankee Stadium last week and internally it's a dump too until you are brought outside. The field is in impeccable condition. I was a big fan of the 1964 NY World's Fair and Shea was built at the same time as the Fair, so it's demolition saddens me. The neon signs, as you say, were not in the original plan; they're unique. I too remember those lit fountains by the 3 chapels at JFK during the DC-8 and B707 Age. JFK was beautiful and friendly, too. Now if you loiter, you get chased-away. I used to sunbathe on the grass in front of the IAB as well as on the Pan Am Roof. Them days are gone!
emshighway
10-28-2008, 07:04 PM
Well I was at a meeting today and appearently those who thought the tower had landmark status were mistaken. The old tower will come down. The tower is connected to the concourse frame so there will be some fun there.
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/419678889_6j4Ts-L.jpg
a newer image
cancidas
11-18-2008, 12:40 PM
Well I was at a meeting today and appearently those who thought the tower had landmark status were mistaken. The old tower will come down. The tower is connected to the concourse frame so there will be some fun there.
did they say how many gates AAL will lose during the demo/ deconstruction process?
LGA777
11-18-2008, 04:26 PM
did they say how many gates AAL will lose during the demo/ deconstruction process?[/quote]
I have not heard but will try and find out, unless AA777 knows? AA just added another ML gate and jetway on the west side of their concourse and very close to the present tower, looks pretty crowded over their.
And as far as the new tower it's been fun watchin it's progress on an almost daily basis as I pass right by it on the bus to work plus the top third is visble from our tower. For some reason in it's current stage of the construction it reminds of the Death Star under construction in Star Wars Episode 6.
Regards
LGA777
mmedford
11-18-2008, 04:36 PM
that new tower at LGA will bring some new upgrades...
including fiber to the field...
damn LGA stealing all of our JFK techs...
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