T5 Pictures

[bluejuice]

Here are some pictures I took at the groundbreaking for jetblues T5 project. I stayed after the ceremony and got some good shots of the terminal pretty empty. For shots looking out the window I posted rhem on the " T5 Discovery channel" thread
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[hiss srq]

wow the memories in that place good stuf thank you very much blue juice

[mirrodie]

wow, was the terminal used for "Catch me if you Can?"


Great pics! When were the pics taken?

[RDU-JFK]

Great pictures! The magazine "Airliners" did an article on TWA and their T5, and it had some great interior shots of the place shortly after it closed.

[T-Bird76]

OH MY GOD.......... I just had several exciting accidents in my pants........ I mean...wow.... I haven't seen inside of that terminal since 2001. You have no idea how special that terminal is to me, I could never describe it in words. Seeing that picture of the Connie Club, sad a few letters are missing, really just sparked some memories. What I would do to get back inside of that place.

[Alex T]

Like Tom it was also cool to see that place.

Having flown TWA for so many years, I never got to fly through JFK on TWA, since we had our own hub at STL.

I really do regret not taking a trip out to JFK. That truly is a symbol of TWA even more then at STL.

I certainly hope to see it when I come up there at some point.

Alex

[LGA777]

Great photo's, Thanks for sharing and yes Mario parts of "Catch Me if You Can" where filmed there the long tunnel to the gates comes to mind !

Cheers

LGA777

[Nonstop2AUH]

Thanks Juice, brought back some memories, had just gone by today on the AirTrain for the first time in a few months and was surprised at the extent of construction already going on behind T5. I realize there is sadly no commercial reason to keep the original signage but hopefully whatever is done by JetBlue in the Saarinen building will be respectful of and in keeping with the '60s modern flavor, they won't (I hope) make it just another terminal.

[DHG750R]

I spent 6 short years working in that building , ( for Piedmont ) Although the building was a bit of a challenge. Always fun , never boring

[G-BOAD]

this is why i love jet blue: they have no history, and yet they are trying to same some, some that American airlines destroyed.

[h2opunk1822]

i think the TWA sign on the back of the building facing the runway is going to stay.. as for the rest of them... i have no clue

[G-BOAD]

inspired, i went to the Terminal to see how it looks. i wanted to go inside but i couldn't. it was empty besides one security guard who gave me a motion indicating me no photos
here are some i took

on on JP:
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[GrummanFan]

Heres an article from the Times today about plans for the terminal.


A Move to Make a Silent Air Terminal Hum Again
By DAVID W. DUNLAP

THE Port Authority is seeking an earthbound second life for what may be the nation’s most romantic evocation of flight: Eero Saarinen’s landmark Trans World Airlines terminal at Kennedy International Airport.

Although its swooping forms amount to a three-dimensional transcription of “Come Fly With Me,” the building’s days as a functioning terminal were numbered in 2001 with the collapse of T.W.A. Designed in the day of the Lockheed Constellation and strained almost to bursting by the Boeing 747 and its jumbo successors, the 44-year-old building now stands empty, idle and obsolete.

Restaurant? Lounge? Spa? Shopping mall? Conference center? Museum? Theater? Botanical garden? Sculpture court? Office space? A mixture? The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is open to these ideas and “anything else that can be imagined by a redeveloper,” said its aviation director, William R. DeCota.

By Nov. 30, the authority will formally request proposals from developers interested in renting the building for 25 years or more, renovating it and adapting it to new uses.

Directly behind the landmark, JetBlue Airways is constructing a new Terminal 5, which is to open in 2008. The buildings will be connected through the dreamlike tubular corridors — featured evocatively in the 2002 film “Catch Me If You Can” — that once led to T.W.A.’s gates. Two electronic ticketing and check-in kiosks will be installed in the Saarinen building, so that passengers who choose to do so will still be able to go through its soaring spaces on the way to their planes.

But something besides two kiosks must fill the 60,000-square-foot main hall, which sits under the vaulted juncture of the four curving concrete lobes that give the building its birdlike silhouette. Something must fill the galleries that once housed the Ambassador Club, the Paris Cafe and the Lisbon Lounge.

“It isn’t just important to save the old Saarinen terminal and its phenomenal architecture,” Mr. DeCota said. “It’s important to find a thriving use. How can you continue to make this a centerpiece?”

Mr. DeCota said he believed the audience was there, beginning with the 50 million travelers who are projected to pass through Kennedy in 2015 and the 40,000 employees who work there. JetBlue’s terminal will have a capacity of 20 million passengers a year.

Development proposals will be due in four months. Mr. DeCota said he expected to be able to recommend a proposal to the Port Authority board by July.

He said the developer would be responsible for renovating the terminal (this includes asbestos removal), restoring historical elements to “strict maintenance and preservation guidelines,” undoing recent alterations, adapting the building in a “minimally intrusive manner,” finding tenants and operating the new center — whatever it turns out to be. Perhaps the principal model is the commercial redevelopment of Union Station in Washington.

The Municipal Art Society, a civic group that has been working with the Port Authority on ways to revive the Saarinen building, believes that issuing a request for proposals is an “extremely flawed” approach, said Frank E. Sanchis III, the senior vice president, not least because it means the JetBlue terminal will open before the renovation project is complete.

Mr. Sanchis said the society favored keeping the Saarinen building in aviation use. He said the authority should have negotiated with JetBlue to undertake both the renovation and the new construction.

Failing that, Mr. Sanchis said, the authority should have committed itself to renovating the Saarinen building and delivering it to a developer already structurally refurbished and cleared of asbestos. As it is now, he said, prospective developers may find the project too daunting.

In response, Pasquale DiFulco, a spokesman for the authority, said: “Neither the Port Authority nor JetBlue is experienced in redeveloping and retenanting a building on this scale. We’re looking to bring in the experts who are best suited to do this.”

JetBlue’s vice president for redevelopment, Richard J. Smyth, said being the sole tenant of the Saarinen building would not have worked operationally or financially for the airline. “More and more of our customers are checking in at home,” he said. “The whole ticketing hall experience is not what it used to be.”

Nonetheless, he said he was not immune to the romance of the old terminal and would welcome the trend if JetBlue passengers chose to make the 150-yard detour to experience Saarinen’s architecture. So the two ticket kiosks may be just a start.

“If there’s enough demand,” Mr. Smyth said, “I’ll put 20 in.”

[h2opunk1822]

i love jet blue w/ a passion and one of the best companies i have ever worked for.. but w/ all the money we put into this new terminal.. i thought for sure we would of done something more with Saarinen’s terminal.. any only 2 kiosks... good thing i work w/ the move team.. b/c thats gonna be a nightmare once it opens! right now there up the the convener belt.. kind of like the same system IAT uses to sort there bags out!.. really cool to watch the progress day by day!