Aircraft down in Hudson being reported

[PhilDernerJr]

Tom, you're right. But just because the manner of death was such a spectacle and in the spotlight, politicians try to jump in to capitalize.

[njgtr82]

That NYT link is not correct, I've seen the true radar replay and the collision was at 700 feet or so. I think the reason he made the sharp turn to the river was because of the 757 that was descending into EWR above him. The helo's will stay low down to the statue, then call Newark tower to enter the class B at 1500 ft. It really amazes me that this does not happen more often. Its not unusual to have ten aircraft within a 3 mile radius of the statue on a nice day all going different directions at different altitudes

[PhilDernerJr]

What modifications would you make to the airspace?

[Matt Molnar]

That NYT link is not correct, I've seen the true radar replay and the collision was at 700 feet or so.

They credit Passur as the source of that info, which is not always accurate.

[GrummanFan]

NBC just showed closeup home video of the accident...a but shaky, but its a decent shot until just after the collision occurs. Scary stuff.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...-53162997.html

[Gerard]

[quote="GrummanFan"]NBC just showed closeup home video of the accident...a but shaky, but its a decent shot until just after the collision occurs. Scary stuff.

WOW!!!!!!

[NIKV69]

Incredible, well it didn't rear end the helo it was about to hit it broadside and seems the pilot of the Piper saw him at the last second and tried a hard right. Seems like he almost made it and just clipped the rotor. Wow.

Here is another curve ball

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08132009/ne ... 184401.htm

[MarkLawrence]

Whoaa...that is a curve ball Nick! Bill - you're a controller - what are the rules on things like that? I would think a definate no no to talk on a landline - unless it's official business right?

[emshighway]

The air traffic controller at Teterboro Airport was on the phone with his girlfriend during Saturday's deadly air collision over the Hudson River, the Daily News has learned.

His supervisor was nowhere to be found at the time.

Both have been suspended and will likely be fired.

Investigations by the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration revealed the two air traffic controllers, who were not immediately identified, had seriously deviated from their assignments at the time of the collision.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 ... z0O7EMFwVz

[coachrowsey]

I think a position with TSA awaits them :lol:

[emshighway]

I think a position with TSA awaits them :lol:

Yea....right... :evil:

[Matt Molnar]

UPDATE

1. NBC reporting that controller's phone call may not have been as innocuous as previously reported...distraction might have prevented him from warning Piper pilot of an alert from Newark re: heavy Hudson traffic.

2. In July the single controller on duty at Teterboro on a graveyard shift accidentally locked himself out of the tower, leaving it unmanned for 45 minutes. He was able to call TRACON and tell them to handle his traffic, 3 flights were affected.

[NIKV69]

From the post article

FAA said in a statement released late Thursday there is no reason to believe that the controller's actions contributed to the accident. However, the agency said the phone conversation was inappropriate and such conduct is unacceptable.

Granted the TEB tower effed up but flying VFR you have to keep traffic in sight. Going to be interesting to see how much weight the NTSB puts on TEB ATC.

[LGA777]

The more I'm hearing now the more I think the suspended controllers at TEB may have had a bigger role in this than originally expected.

Now another coment I have been wanting to post. I was home at the time of the accident last Saturday and recieved a text something had happened only mins after the accident occured. What surprised me was that 1 hour after the accident only NY1 and FOX New Chanell where broadcasting live coverage. None of the other local stations or CNN had coverage. To me it seemed like a big enough story to warrent local live coverage by the big local news players, especially in light of the constant headline coverage it is still getting now almost a week later.

Regards

LGA777

[NIKV69]

None of the other local stations or CNN had coverage

CNN is easy, they have too much vested in Obama at this point and with the health care bill shaping up to be his demise they have really been covering nothing but that. I think after they saw how big story the mis air collision had become they carried live coverage.