Awesome shot of her moose!
Awesome shot of her moose!
"Meanwhile, back at the ranch..."Originally Posted by RDU-JFK
and the question at hand.
WHY can't they go back after a few hours!?
"my finger on the shutter button, while my eye is over my shoulder"
Same cities that were canceled Saturday and Sunday.JetBlue Extends Operational Recovery Through Monday, Feb. 19
NEW YORK, Feb. 17, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- JetBlue Airways this
evening announces further operational recovery programs through Monday,
Feb. 19. Details include:
Canceling 23 percent of Monday, Feb. 19 operations, including but not
limited to all flights to and from the following JetBlue destinations:
I know very little about airline logistics, but is this really bad compared to when other airlines' hubs get crippled by a storm, or has the media blown it out of proportion? For comparison, when EWR gets hit, is CO a disaster for five full days? NW at DTW?
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9
The airline has not handled it very well....that's all I have to say.
-Rich
Yeah, it has to be Jeblue not handling it well.
Northwest had one incident like this with weather as you probably all remember, but it only lasted until the storm ended. A few planes stuck out on the runways and taxiways and couldn't move for like 9 hours, but they were able to get back to the gate after that, and NW was at full operation within the hour.
nwa FOREVER!
I understand that a lot of this was because Jetblue expected the weather to ease up, and not worsen. So, they filled up their planes and left the gates to go que up for de-icing and to leave once the weather calmed down some. Then there was a shortage on de-icing fluid, and their gates became occupied by empty planes for the next wave of flights. So, there were so many planes all over that it became difficult to handle/manage/corrdinate/move, especially once the weather got worse.
Ultimately, the problem was that they expected the best in terms of weather scenario, and the airport ran low on de-icing fluid.
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So getting back to the gate is some sort of major accomplishment, after 9+ hours of unjustifiable incarceration?!
Were not just talking about sheer boredom and Aunt Poly waiting at arrivals looking for Sonny boy as the only consequence.
This could be a deadly affair for the elderly, someone with a blood clot situation or has to eat and take medication on time. Feel free to add on a host of other medical situations like this.
Passengers have done there part to gauge their time frame, 2 hours flight + expected delays can and do happen and are accounted for, but not 10 hours!
Again, WHY can't a plane return after a few hours????
And don't say "full gates". After 2 plus hours get a damn set of stairs and a bus.
"my finger on the shutter button, while my eye is over my shoulder"
I'm sorry, but with the exuberant NYNJPA budget, this can't be legit.
This is not the first year an airport and aviation has faced winter. This is the Northeast, and its just another day at the office.
The "storm" did not last for weeks.
Anyone projecting the image de-icing fluid is low is merely bucking to jack up the spending budget, and they do so any which way they can.
"my finger on the shutter button, while my eye is over my shoulder"
I'm not making an excuse for anything, but durring that time, we got about 2 feet of snow in a short amount of time, you couldn't move an aircraft if you tried. I wasn't making an excuse for NW, just merely saying they handled it much better than JetBlue.So getting back to the gate is some sort of major accomplishment, after 9+ hours of unjustifiable incarceration?!
Were not just talking about sheer boredom and Aunt Poly waiting at arrivals looking for Sonny boy as the only consequence.
This could be a deadly affair for the elderly, someone with a blood clot situation or has to eat and take medication on time. Feel free to add on a host of other medical situations like this.
Passengers have done there part to gauge their time frame, 2 hours flight + expected delays can and do happen and are accounted for, but not 10 hours!
Again, WHY can't a plane return after a few hours????
And don't say "full gates". After 2 plus hours get a damn set of stairs and a bus.
Northwest Airlines ended up paying 7M in compensation to the passengers. Unlike JetBlue, once the storm passed and DTW opened back up, NWA was back to full operation within the hour.
nwa FOREVER!
That's because NWA has alot of experience in adverse situations...NWA Ops is prepared for this sort of thing. It's clear that JetBlue was not.
-Rich
INTENSS, that is basically what I was attempting to say. You just said in 2 sentences what took me 4 paragraphs to say, can I take lessons? ;)
nwa FOREVER!
OHG...7M?!
Wow :shock:
Perhaps the wait was not that bad after all :lol:
"my finger on the shutter button, while my eye is over my shoulder"
This comes down to a total operational break down at B6 and IMO as I stated in another post I feel questions B6s safety practices. This isn't the first time its happened to them. Last year they were backlogged with passengers. Other airlines simply canceled their flights so when the storm past their planes would be where they needed them to be. The New York market is not one you want to screw with and B6 did a good job of creating a total cluster ****. They better have a damage control plan ready to roll or they are going to lose even more money then they already have. They are in a very bad spot right now.
Agreed. It will be impossible to undo the PR damage done by this mess. From now on, travelers are going to have major reservations about booking jetBlue flights during the winter regardless of price.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9
Not sure about B6 @ JFK but at my carrier at LGA we order and supply the deicing fluid, we DO NOT run out in Winter and if this was the Port at JFK's fault I would be surprised, if this is (I suspect) a B6 issue shame on them. You don't run out of fluid right before one of the biggest Winter travel weekends with freezing precip forecasted.
In defense though I worked that afternoon and the 734, 319, 321, and CR7 we deiced took about 3 times as long as usual due to condition of and type of frozen precip.
Regards
LGA777
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