NY Area Ground Stop

**hiss srq** · 07-11-2007, 10:37 AM

Oh,Tommy's back. No wonder I smelled Irish potatoe and corned beef near JFK last night. ;)

**PHL Approach** · 07-11-2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Art at ISP

OR could the controllers union be somewhat involved.

Best,
Art

Come on now Art, this isn't US. There is no such thing as a controller slowdown!

**hiss srq** · 07-11-2007, 10:54 AM

[quote=PHL Approach]

Originally Posted by "Art at ISP":3e4ac

OR could the controllers union be somewhat involved.

Best,
Art

Come on now Art, this isn't US. There is no such thing as a controller slowdown![/quote:3e4ac]

(Bitch smacks Ed for that comment.)

**NYARTCCFAN** · 07-11-2007, 12:47 PM

Cent Pa radar shot as of 1:40 pm

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 11&loop=no

**Matt Molnar** · 07-11-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by NYARTCCFAN

Cent Pa radar shot as of 1:40 pm

It's actually as of right now, or whenever you click it. :)

It's going to be getting rough soon, a line is forming in western Jersey and should be here in an hour or so, and two massive lines behind it in central and western PA.

**Matt Molnar** · 07-11-2007, 01:39 PM

The FAA delay map looks like it has chicken pox...EVERY airport is a red dot, indicating "Departures are experiencing taxi delays greater than 45 minutes and/or arrivals are experiencing airborne holding delays greater than 45 minutes." I've never seen that before.

http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp

**Art at ISP** · 07-11-2007, 04:07 PM

[quote=PHL Approach]

Originally Posted by "Art at ISP":857e2

OR could the controllers union be somewhat involved.

Best,
Art

Come on now Art, this isn't US. There is no such thing as a controller slowdown![/quote:857e2]

No offense, my friend, but a good friend of ours works at NY Tracon, and she spent Sunday with her family in our pool, and based on our conversation, anything is possible.

Good luck in PHL....

And sorry Ryan and Ron, but there is a heap of bad news coming for US, and it should hit any day now.

I'll let you know privately when I have confirmation.

**RDU-JFK** · 07-11-2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Art at ISP

And sorry Ryan and Ron, but there is a heap of bad news coming for US, and it should hit any day now.

I'll let you know privately when I have confirmation.

Why can't the rest of us know?

I don't know about anyone else here but if you're gonna say something like this on a forum you should expect to share it on the forum. Otherwise send a PM to Ryan and Ron. I fly US quite often and am curious to know of any 'bad news' as I have several trips with them in the future...

If this news is private, that's fine, but don't tease the rest of us!!!

**Art at ISP** · 07-11-2007, 04:26 PM

I will share the news in detail when I have confirmation.

Let's just say it will be the first ever customer revolt in the airline business....

More at http://www.ffocus.org.

That's all for now but please stay tuned.

**hiss srq** · 07-11-2007, 05:00 PM

Running 15 in trail over Pottstown right now for PHL departures. On another note there is a big fire on the oil refinery across the way and air traffic is being slowed up by a slew of new choppers currently around the area and one is not talking to PHL tower though in theri coverage area. Rough day there. yeesh!

**njgtr82** · 07-11-2007, 07:16 PM

Today is by far alot worse then yesterday, at least at EWR. We had no arrivals or departures for at least 45 mins from a thunderstorm that pretty much stalled out over the field.

**PHL Approach** · 07-12-2007, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by hiss srq

Running 15 in trail over Pottstown right now for PHL departures.

15 thats IT!! That's actually pretty damn good. Most days it's 25 for PTW, MXE and STOEN. Hell one night we had like 35 goin to DITCH. Never seen that many heavies on sierra all waiting to get off.

**hiss srq** · 07-27-2007, 05:16 PM

So LGA and PHL are groundstop due to GRIDLOCK and weather. PHL is currently in worse shape the only departure fix they are useing is DITCH which coincidentaly is what I think we should do if it is going to get that bad tonight.

**cancidas** · 07-28-2007, 01:44 AM

i didn't leave work until 0130, due to late inbound aircraft. there were still 2 arrivals enroute for LGA when i left. today was bad, but with the wx that was headed our way i can honestly understand. should have posted our radar picture earlier, was too busy to even remember.

**Smartass Flyboy** · 07-28-2007, 02:49 AM

I spoke to Benita around 2300 and I think we got it worse at JFK. We still had 2 LHR's on the gate with 2 more entering their second and third hour taxiing. GRU and CDG also still on the ground and we already had 1 come back and cancel. The line came around Siera and up past Terminal 1 around that time. I was finally out at 0045. We were expecting EWR diversions, but they made it in, now big question was how late did curfew go at LGA? On better news, I'm off tomorrow, enjoy the clean up day. :P