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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Adam, the smaller birds coming off of 22R (as well as 31L) won't fill anywhere close to a full frame even with a 400mm. The more you crop to fill the frame, the more resolution you lose. Combine that with a load of usm and subsequent added grain...
    I've lost a few good shots due to the same thing.
    Yeah, I'm liking my arrival shots much better than my takeoff shots...but I posted them here because I figured my editing could use some work as well.

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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    http://www.jetphotos.net//viewreject_b.php?id=1816686

    I'm done with the 100-400. Every shot is getting rejected; about 80% of my 70-300 IS shots got accepted with relatively little post-processing.

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    Adam, I think that shot is easily fixable. Just bump the levels and lay on some usm. Patience grasshopper, it's a new lens and there's going to be some trial and error. I'm going through it too! Don't worry, we still love ya buddy! :borat:
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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Adam, I think that shot is easily fixable. Just bump the levels and lay on some usm. Patience grasshopper, it's a new lens and there's going to be some trial and error. I'm going through it too! Don't worry, we still love ya buddy! :borat:
    Oh, I'd already resubmitted it by the time I posted that :) The levels and contrast were easy, and probably user error to start with...the sharpening, not so much, but I increased the Amount even more...

    I'm just not used to doing so much work on my shots...these are a lot softer than my 70-300 IS shots...I had already done what I thought was extreme sharpening the first time I submitted it.

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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    If they were taken from the extreme end of the zoom(350-400), the 100-400 is notorious for being soft.
    But remember, that lens is a rental, not your own. Who knows how it was handled before you got it.

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    Oversharpened AND undersharpened/soft? WTF??

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1833073
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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Oversharpened AND undersharpened/soft? WTF??

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1833073
    Yes Kenny the front of the plane is over sharpened while the back half is very soft. Its a rather common rejection with shots like this. The lack of light on the tail end of the plane is the cause of the softness.

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    Oh ok.

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1837475
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1837470
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1834306
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1834258

    How on earth do you guys get anything accepted with that 100-400 lens? Every shot from both copies I've tried is getting rejected due to softness and too much contrast...

    (I sharpened the absolute crap out of these. 200% with 2.0 radius was my default; the second one was even more aggressively sharpened.)

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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Adam, are you using curves? It looks like you are over-lightening the dark end, this often leads to the soft, hazy results you are showing here.

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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    Adam, are you using curves? It looks like you are over-lightening the dark end, this often leads to the soft, hazy results you are showing here.
    I'm doing all of my color correction in Camera Raw...setting the white balance, lowering the contrast (it defaults to +50 for some reason) and adjusting the exposure a bit if necessary...

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    Bad info in remarks for "Scarebus." LOL. Adam, the colors look a bit flat too. Do you bump the saturation at all?
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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Bad info in remarks for "Scarebus." LOL. Adam, the colors look a bit flat too. Do you bump the saturation at all?
    Yeah, the "Scarebus" one is easy to fix. I'm much more worried about the contrast and sharpness issues...this doesn't happen with my 70-300!

    I bumped the saturation a little...like +8...

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    Re: Post Your Recent REJECTIONS!

    Quote Originally Posted by adam613
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1837475
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1837470
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1834306
    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=1834258

    How on earth do you guys get anything accepted with that 100-400 lens? Every shot from both copies I've tried is getting rejected due to softness and too much contrast...

    (I sharpened the absolute crap out of these. 200% with 2.0 radius was my default; the second one was even more aggressively sharpened.)
    None of these rejections have anything to do with the lens at all.

    The first shot needs more contrast added, but an easy fix.

    The second shot is simply to far away. She went straight out, unless you’re using a 600mm prime it’s going to look like crap. I didn't even bother with my Cathay shot from that day.

    The CRJ shot...it’s a CRJ Adam, you can't shoot those at HoBe, they are simply too small and too high. The conditions have to be perfect to grab a decent shot of a CRJ at Hobe. Plus it’s a CRJ...when they fly over is a good time to go to the bathroom, ;)

    The AA bird is an easy fix, a touch more sharpening and more contrast. Also the comment....I'd change it.

    Again you can't blame the lens, that's an excuse. You can't expect to throw on a high quality lens and automatically get great results. Each lens works differently with each camera and you have to learn the len's "sweet spot." You learned your 70-300mm sweet spot and how it works and therefore you are getting the desired results. I'd bet if I threw on your 70-300 on my camera I'd curse the dam thing. Again nothing to do with the lens but I'd have to learn how it responds and what settings it performs best in.

    My 100-400 works great in Shutter mode around 500 to 640th of a second with an F stop of F9/F10. Yet on my Rebel that wasn't the case. The 100-400 is a popular lens for a reason, if the quality of the lens was sub par Canon wouldn't be making it nor would we be buying it.

    Photography takes time to learn and everytime you put a new lens on your body your learnng all over again.

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