So Long Pontiac :(

[T-Bird76]

The last Pontiac has rolled off the line in Michigan, while I'm not as into cars as I use to be Pontiac was one of my favorite brand of cars. My 1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP was my "20s" car and I loved that car, still do. It was fast, sleek, well appointed, and reliable. When I sold it she had 157,000 miles on it and still looked and ran like it was new. I sort of regret selling it and not keeping it as a "fun" car. In any event another great household name goes by the way side.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34224218/ns ... ss-autos//

This was my baby, god this car was fun to drive.

[NIKV69]

I owned a 70' Firebird. Fun to drive though not as well made as the Mopar stuff or Mustang I owned. It is sad to see because Pontiac did look better than most of GM lines

[mirrodie]

Nick.....you had a Mopar and a Mustang?


And now have a Maxima?


Where did your balls go? (were you married once? )


At least I have an excuse ! ;)

[T-Bird76]

Nick.....you had a Mopar and a Mustang?


And now have a Maxima?


Where did your balls go? (were you married once? )


At least I have an excuse ! ;)

The Max out performs the Mustang and pretty much all the Dodge high performace products on the market right now.

[NIKV69]

Nick.....you had a Mopar and a Mustang?


And now have a Maxima?


Where did your balls go? (were you married once? )


At least I have an excuse !

They were muscle cars so you beat on them and spent all day fixing them. For a daily driver especially me who on the spur of the moment likes to drive long distances the Japanese can't be beat. Much more dependable.

[mirrodie]

They were muscle cars so you beat on them and spent all day fixing them. For a daily driver especially me who on the spur of the moment likes to drive long distances the Japanese can't be beat. Much more dependable.

Quite true. But Tom, a stock Maxima outperforming what I assume is a MOPAR enhanced Mustang? I think not.

[mmedford]

MOPAR enhanced Mustang? I think not.

HOW DARE YOU USE THOSE TWO WORDS TOGETHER....

[T-Bird76]

They were muscle cars so you beat on them and spent all day fixing them. For a daily driver especially me who on the spur of the moment likes to drive long distances the Japanese can't be beat. Much more dependable.

Quite true. But Tom, a stock Maxima outperforming what I assume is a MOPAR enhanced Mustang? I think not.

MOPAR is Dodge....Mustang is Ford Mario. A Maxima off the showroom can easily out perform a V8 Mustang off the showroom as well as a moded Max can out perform an equally equiped moded Mustang.

[mirrodie]

I know the difference and infused that to see who'd pick up on it. (Its as volatile a fight as A vs B ;) ) but they are all the same, just mods off the stock car.

My point is that I doubt Nick's stock Maxima would outperform a tricked up Pony. Im talking stock vs mods here. And I speak from experience as the 2006 3.5 Altima V6 that I drove was the same as the 2005 Maxima but a touch lighter and zippier.

Off the line, heck my old 3.5 Altima (same as the Maxima) would take a stock 4 cyl Pony off the line. But I've never go to the line vs. a tricked out Pony.


Ahhh..... so I turned back the 2006 3.5 Altima lease on Monday. It was a very nice car and I thought long about letting it go. But now that we have the new car, I decided to keep our

2000 Nissan Altima, which has less than 86K on it. I hadnt driven it in a while and now having driven it all week, and had it inspected on Tuesday, I have to say I love the ride maybe even more so than the 2006 Altima. The 4 cyl is just a smoother running engine and you'd think the transmission was CVT (its not).

[moose135]

A Maxima off the showroom can easily out perform a V8 Mustang off the showroom as well as a moded Max can out perform an equally equiped moded Mustang.

On what planet???

Comparing the Mustang GT and the Maxima 3.5SV, from the specs from the Road & Track road test data:

Engine: Mustang - V-8, Maxima - V-6
Price as tested: Mustang - $34,130, Maxima - $34,940

0-60mph: Mustang - 5.3sec, Maxima - 6.1 sec
0-100mph: Mustang - 12.7sec, Maxima - 15.4 sec
1/4 mile: Mustang - 13.8.3sec@104mph, Maxima - [email protected]
Top Speed: Mustang - 145mph, Maxima - 149mph
Braking from 60mph: Mustang - 115ft, Maxima - 121ft
Braking from 80mph: Mustang - 202ft, Maxima - 219ft
Skidpad: Mustang - 0.93g, Maxima - 0.86g
Slalom Avg Speed: Mustang - 69.1mph, Maxima - 65.4mph

Other than a few mph of top speed, it looks like the Mustang outperforms the Maxima in all their tests. Can you let me in on the tests that show a "Maxima off the showroom can easily out perform a V8 Mustang off the showroom"?

[mirrodie]

On what planet???

?

what he said

[T-Bird76]

A Maxima off the showroom can easily out perform a V8 Mustang off the showroom as well as a moded Max can out perform an equally equiped moded Mustang.

On what planet???

Comparing the Mustang GT and the Maxima 3.5SV, from the specs from the Road & Track road test data:

Engine: Mustang - V-8, Maxima - V-6
Price as tested: Mustang - $34,130, Maxima - $34,940

0-60mph: Mustang - 5.3sec, Maxima - 6.1 sec
0-100mph: Mustang - 12.7sec, Maxima - 15.4 sec
1/4 mile: Mustang - 13.8.3sec@104mph, Maxima - [email protected]
Top Speed: Mustang - 145mph, Maxima - 149mph
Braking from 60mph: Mustang - 115ft, Maxima - 121ft
Braking from 80mph: Mustang - 202ft, Maxima - 219ft
Skidpad: Mustang - 0.93g, Maxima - 0.86g
Slalom Avg Speed: Mustang - 69.1mph, Maxima - 65.4mph

Other than a few mph of top speed, it looks like the Mustang outperforms the Maxima in all their tests. Can you let me in on the tests that show a "Maxima off the showroom can easily out perform a V8 Mustang off the showroom"?

Considering you quoted Road and Track you've lost all credibility in your questioning. Why not quote Consumer Reports, another highly biased magazine.

[moose135]

OK, you don't like my source, let's see your "unbiased" test data...

[Nick]

So long Pontiac. Oh, I know a Mustang you could try. :)

[T-Bird76]

So long Pontiac. Oh, I know a Mustang you could try. :)

Please...those things are plastic pieces of Shat!. Chevy is bringing back the Caprice in 2011 based off of the G8 which is a great car, might look at that. I will say though the Taurus SHO looks like a winner as well.