Viewing Reminder For Tonite

[PhilDernerJr]

Anyone burning this onto DVD for me? :borat:

[cancidas]

Anyone burning this onto DVD for me? :borat:

i'll take a copy too since i still to this day don't have cable...

[Gerard]

Is that the same Air Force One program that the History Channel has shown many times in the last week or so?

I doubt it as there is coverage of Pres. Obama on it.....

They must have been editing that show at the last minute since that footage was from last week.
Just finished watching both shows and I gotta tell ya they were both incredibly well done. The footage, interviews,
the direction,writing and narration were all top notch. Kudos to NatGeo for an excellent job.
A question and observations:
During the 9/11 sequence when ATC tells AF1 that the F-16s were behind them the AF1 pilot advises that the jets were "going
to declare M.A.R.S.A with us". What does that mean?
And I loved that the F-16s told AF1 to "slow down" so they could catch up as they headed into Andrews. They were doing 630 MPH!!
In the Marine One show you can see a non-military Astar parked at the end of the pier when the Sea Knights landed. That is the
Dept of Justice/FBI helo, call sign "Idaho".
The whole sequence of landing at the White House was very cool. Back in the summer of 2007 I was parked off the GW Parkway in
Va. along the Potomac and watched as three VH-3s came in from Andrews with two coming right to the White House before breaking
off and one landing.
And a big thumbs up to my buddy/co-worker Pete, a big time everything about the President buff who clued me in on this show.

[moose135]

During the 9/11 sequence when ATC tells AF1 that the F-16s were behind them the AF1 pilot advises that the jets were "going
to declare M.A.R.S.A with us". What does that mean?

Military Accepts Responsibility for Separation of Aircraft
It allows you to move in closer than ATC would normally allow in order to rendezvous. When we were refueling, we would regularly declare MARSA with Center prior to the receiver entering the refueling track.

[mirrodie]

IIRC they said the F16s had to slow down b/c AF1 was doing 637mph, (Near the speed of sound, which I have to verify).

As for the guys at the end of the Sarasota runway, probably spotters but I could see how they must have been panicked on that day, not knowing where and when the attacks were coming.

Again, awesome segment on learning to land hte south lawn and also great coverage of the silent run to Baghdad.

Phil, I would imagine it would be on youtube or hulu.com soon?

[Gerard]

During the 9/11 sequence when ATC tells AF1 that the F-16s were behind them the AF1 pilot advises that the jets were "going
to declare M.A.R.S.A with us". What does that mean?

Military Accepts Responsibility for Separation of Aircraft
It allows you to move in closer than ATC would normally allow in order to rendezvous. When we were refueling, we would regularly declare MARSA with Center prior to the receiver entering the refueling track.

Thanks John. I knew YOU would be the one to clue me in!! :D

[PhilDernerJr]

IIRC they said the F16s had to slow down b/c AF1 was doing 637mph, (Near the speed of sound, which I have to verify).

637mph is Mach .83, which is not uncommon for airliners.

[Matt Molnar]

IIRC they said the F16s had to slow down b/c AF1 was doing 637mph, (Near the speed of sound, which I have to verify).

637mph is Mach .83, which is not uncommon for airliners.

Mach speed depends on the altitude...sound travels faster at higher altitudes with thinner air.

637 mph is Mach .83 at sea level
at 20,000 feet it's .90
at 30,000 feet it's .94
at 40,000 feet it's .97

[moose135]

Actually, the speed of sound is dependent on temperature. It's colder at altitude, hence the speed of sound is lower.

Mach 1 Calculator

[MarkLawrence]

For anyone that missed it - and the Marine One program - they are being repeated on Nat Geo this evening at 8pm and 9pm.

[Gerard]

For anyone that missed it - and the Marine One program - they are being repeated on Nat Geo this evening at 8pm and 9pm.

Mark it's actually WEDnesday night at 8 and 9, then again at 11 and 12.

[MarkLawrence]

oopsss....sorry - I guess I looked at the day wrong...