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    New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    On January 1, 2008 the DOT is implementing new restrictions on flying with lithium-ion and lithium-metal batteries. The most prevalent devices with these types of batteries are cameras, laptop computers and cell phones, so must of us will be affected. As usual, there is no explanation why they are implementing these rules, so it can only be speculated that it is to prevent the possibility of these batteries shorting out and causing a fire in the baggage hold, though to my knowledge this has never happened.

    Here is a quick snapshot of the new rules...

    BANNED
    Spare (not installed) lithium batteries in checked baggage
    Lithium-metal batteries containing over 2 grams of lithium in any baggage (most lithium-metal batteries are below 2 grams)
    Lithium-ion batteries containing over 25 grams of lithium in any baggage (most lithium-ion camera, laptop and cellphone batteries are below 8 grams, some large laptop batteries and professional video camera batteries are between 8 and 25 grams)

    ALLOWED
    Spare (not installed) lithium batteries in carry-on baggage
    Installed lithium batteries in checked baggage (with safety measures taken to ensure the device does not turn on)

    See the DOT's Safe Travel site for more details, including lithium weight limits.
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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    there is no explanation why
    I was just going to ask why but again its out Gov't so no explanation required. Speaking of dumb gov't reasons for things...Talking to some folks at JFK today regarding delays..the FAA has run out of reasons for delays that they post to port so now they are using the word "Other" for delays....WTF does other mean? We have a top notch system I tell yah...

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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    Well I've found a partial explanation on the TSA site: lithium is flammable. It goes on to say fires ignited by lithium-metal batteries cannot be extinguished by conventional firefighting equipment on board most aircraft, and includes a link to an FAA fire study. Fair enough. But wait! Lithium-ion battery fires, CAN be put out. Then why are they banned too?

    Neither agency explains how the rules will be enforced. For example, if they find an offending battery in your checked bag, do they bump you from the flight? Do they simply confiscate the battery? Is there a way to get it back? All important questions when you're talking about expensive equipment.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem.
    All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
    I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9

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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    are there any weight limitations on the batteries when you're carrying them spare? i don't know how much lithium are in my batteries. i've already had to have my CR123 batteries ground shipped to me from surefire...
    it is mathematically impossible for either hummingbirds, or helicopters to fly. fortunately, neither are aware of this.

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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    While I know about the new FAA regulation I haven't seen the enforcement part yet. I'm hoping they don't push this on the TSA but since it is being broadcast on the TSA site also I don't have a good feeling.

    Surrendered/confiscated items usually can not be retrieved. We have enough items deemed hazardous materials now.
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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    I guess one could hide their batteries in a bomb, thereby guaranteeing TSA won't find them.

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    Re: New Restrictions on Flying with Lithium Batteries

    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    I guess one could hide their batteries in a bomb, thereby guaranteeing TSA won't find them.

    BA-DUM-BUM-CHING!

    Funny, ******* :borat:
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