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Why Aviation companies prefer A320 family mostly instead B737 family? Even two are same ones. What's the problem with Boeing?
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Happpy,
Hello, Guys!
Why Aviation companies prefer A320 family mostly instead B737 family? Even two are same ones. What's the problem with Boeing?
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Happpy,
Many companies also prefer the 737 instead of the A320, so your assumption isn't very correct or accurate. There have also been many more 737s sold over the years than the Airbus counterpart.
Alaska and Southwest only have 737s instead of A320s
I quote from Wikipedia:
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"The 737 series is the best-selling jet airliner in the history of aviation.[4] The 737 has been continuously manufactured by Boeing since 1967 with 7,755 aircraft delivered and 3,467 orders yet to be fulfilled as of September 2013.[1] 737 assembly is centered at the Boeing Renton Factory in Renton, Washington. Many 737s serve markets previously filled by 707, 727, 757, DC-9, and MD-80/MD-90 airliners, and the aircraft currently competes primarily with the Airbus A320 family.[6] There are, on average, 1,250 Boeing 737s airborne at any given time, with two departing or landing somewhere every five seconds.[7]"
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"As of July 2013, a total of 5,677 Airbus A320 family aircraft have been delivered, of which 5,481 are in service. In addition, another 4,135 airliners are on firm order. It ranked as the world's fastest-selling jet airliner family according to records from 2005 to 2007, and as the best-selling single-generation aircraft programme.[9][10] The A320 family has proved popular with airlines, specifically low-cost carriers (LCC). British LCC EasyJet purchased A319s, and A320s, to replace its Boeing 737 fleet. The family competes directly with the Boeing 737, 717, 757 and the McDonnell Douglas MD-80."
I know this fluctuates and it only shows the ones being tracked but as of this moment there are more of the A320 series in the air than the 737 http://http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/
Sorry, fixed link: http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/Quote:
Originally Posted by RWB
I was almost going to post in this thread but thought better of it. A & B never goes anywhere. I will say as a Boeing man I flew the A320 for the first time last year and was pleased with it.
I have flown both A320 and B737 in various configurations and sizes and from different airlines. Only thing I say I do not like is the "Barking Dogs" pumps on the A320 family when the computers move fluids from one side to the other. Other than that, both are perfectly fine aircraft. Inside the cabin, you can;t really tell the differences between flying one vs the other ... it seems to me the A320 [can] be a bit quieter than some of the older model Next Gen B737s but it is not much...
There is no problem with Boeing or with the 737. As a matter of fact, they just announced a new modelQuote:
Originally Posted by Happpy
http://www.newairplane.com/737max/
And lest I be accused of fanboyism, I could care less for that "If it ain't Boeing I ain't going" crap. I want to be on the plane that gets me where I need to be in one piece.
I find out not that long ago, that prolly the best US airline - Jet Blue doesn't have no Boeing's in their fleet. I just wonder, why?
Neeleman wanted jets that had more passenger space, and managed to get a better deal from them than from BoeingQuote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras B.
Uh oh, there are more airborne 737s at the moment, guess Boeing is back to being more popular. Phew...
The A320 is six inches wider than the 737. For a guy with big shoulders, that extra inch of elbow room is a big deal, except for airlines like DL and UA that put 737 seats in their A320s because they hate their customers.
Easy fix.. get smaller shoulders.
But wait, you just did!!! :confused::tongue::eek::wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
This reason is also important. We cannot ignore it but it's still not a conclusive evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzalu
One of the most important thing which might attract companies and pilots to A320.Quote:
Originally Posted by clear_prop
This is also a proof where you can see companies prefer A320.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras B.
I've seen on www.flightradar24.com. Get start from the Europe and go to Asia+middle East and Australia and Hong Kong, I've seen A320 family is in much more numbers than B737 family.
But still not a conclusive evidence and reason why companies use A320..
a lot depends on what other planes they have in their fleet, what planned usage of the plane, price, availability, lease terms, political, plus dozens of other reasons
The two are broadly considered to be roughly equivalent to one another, with slight advantages related to how they are being employed. It is widely said that by virtue of its lighter weight, the 737-800 has an advantage over the A320 over sectors up to and under 700 miles if I remember the figures correctly (the seat advantage of the 738 over the A320 also helps it a bit). However, over longer stage lengths, the 320 is said to have the advantage. The 321 is universally held to be superior to the 737-900ER, with the latter's runway performance especially maligned. Both the 319 and 737-700 seem to be on their way out the door, so to speak, in terms of popularity. However the 737-700 is used by some airlines, I believe Delta is one of them, particularly for its superior takeoff performance vis-a-vis the other contemporary narrowbodies. Perhaps somebody can expound more....
Looking at the 320NEO vs the 737MAX, while the 320 holds the order advantage at the moment, a closer look at the numbers suggests longer period on the market plays a role here. The numbers of orders between the two programs is much closer when you compare apples-to-apples with regards to number of days since official program launch. It is likely that the numbers will eventually approach the market share we see today, with (in my opinion) a slight advantage to Airbus. First to the market and having multiple engine options will no doubt help them, especially if the P&W GTF beats CFM's new offering by a substantial margin.
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yeah but the B737 roll and rotation is long and flat and so pretty compared to the A320... :wink:
Your posts all imply the question of "why do MORE airlines prefer the A320 than the 737" as though the A320 is assumed to be the better or more dominant aircraft. I have asked you to clarify your beliefs, but you haven't. Considering the fact that this is a controversial subject and your replies seem to incite more debate, I am beginning to think we are being flamed. :-pQuote:
Originally Posted by Happpy
Happy, your age please? We always wonder ;)
I am an old fart... you?
One morning a few weeks ago, while getting ready for work, I heard what sounded like a chorus of shrieking monkeys accompanied by the most pitiful wailing noises I had ever heard. I stuck my head out the window and saw a teenager walking to school with "music" playing from his phone, which he held out in front of him so the whole damn neighborhood could hear it. "Well, there goes the future," I said to myself, "I just wish they wouldn't listen to such awful noise". Then I remembered my role in my old heavy metal band, complete with screaming, growling, and shrill guitar solos. "Nobody understands", I remember thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzalu
The cycle is now complete. Got any room for another old fart, Manny?
William, I actually formed a DJ group back in the mid 1980s and we would perform at parties for very little money, sometimes for free and it was LOUD. Now I can't even think of going to a club lol. Welcome!
Hahaha awesome! You were there for the beginning of hip hop, right at the damn epicenter of it all! Wasn't Beat Street like the BEST movie back then? I had the soundtrack on cassetteQuote:
Originally Posted by gonzalu
Well, since tread went from A320 vs B737 to HR/HM to 80's/hip hop...Quote:
Originally Posted by megatop412
I'm hands up on HM/HR side...Doesn't aircraft engines sound like some soft HM guitar shredding?
Yeah we get distracted easily here don't we...or I do at least. Aircraft engines are a different kind of cacophony to me; yes there are 'notes' that make up the 'chord' of the sound of a jet engine but it isn't musical, it's just a single chord ringing out, changing in pitch if its position with you changes. Music to my ears yes, but not exactly a James Murphy solo, as an example. His 'shredding' is full of emotion, like the noise of a 747 takeoff is full of emotion, but they are different beasts entirely. But both are heavy metal haha :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras B.
As much as Aviation is my life... Sometimes I wish I could just punch those B6 A320's out of the sky at 12 AM. Their music is WHISSSSSTTTLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEE! It's fun for a while to live under the base turn for 22L, but man... does it get annoying after 10 years. You can start to tell what kind of plane it is 15 seconds before you can even look up at it!
I still miss my Sony Walkman and Discman later on... wish I still had them for a nice eBay sale :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by megatop412
I know I'm bringing up an old thread but...
The Airbus a320 is not necessarily selling better. There have been 10,253 ordered and delivered total vs. Boeing's 11,774 orders and deliveries.
I worked for an airline flying both B733 and A320, Air New Zealand and the truth is the Airbus A320 is an accountant's plane whilst the B733 was a pilot's plane. I compare the B737-300 which is an analog for the B737-700 because when the A320 first came out the B733 was still dominant. Also from a baggage handler perspective the undercarriage legs on B737NG aircraft were much taller making entry to the baggage holds harder. Unless Boeing can adapt the B737 to use ULDs then it will become extinct.
The Boeing 737-300 required a gang of six baggage handlers for a 30 minute turnaround whilst the A320 took just two guys with scissor lifts. The A320 could take special ULD devices, which means they actually get preloaded in the baggage hall, not on the tarmac. This centralised manpower in one place.
In the B733 we had two guys in the nose hold, whilst at the rear we needed two guys inside the rear hold, one on the belt loader and a loading foreman to supervise. Six in total. Sum up the wages and you get your reason.
Also I did a paper exercise once comparing the performance of a B721 with a B733 and A320 from NZWN to Sydney and Brisbane. The A320 had the capacity of B727-200 series, fuel consumption superior to B733 and the speed of a 727.
The A320 NEO is going to blow away the B737 for fuel consumption. I am not familiar with the B737 MAX so plead ignorance. I suspect both A320 and B737 will get blown away soon by new offerings from Embraer and Mitsubishi given the new fuel efficient engines on offer. The real war is to convince accountants.