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Saddam Hussein has been transferred from U.S. custody, his lawyers said, and an Iraqi judge authorized to attend the former dictator's hanging said he would be executed no later than Saturday.
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From the AP:
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Saddam Hussein has been transferred from U.S. custody, his lawyers said, and an Iraqi judge authorized to attend the former dictator's hanging said he would be executed no later than Saturday.
Well Baby Bush has revenged his father...
It has only cost 3000 and counting US lives.
All I want to know is are they going to broad cast this or what I have been watching Fox all afternoon... I think it should be broadcast but than again I question broadcasting it because in some circles it will make him look like a martyer
You don't actually think Bush decided to go to war to avenge his father, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by emshighway
It had nothing to do with that. Let's see the "We went to war for oil" thing fell on it's face since we haven't touched a drop of their oil so this is the next excuse? Saddam was one of the worst dictators in history and his death certifcate was signed long before Bush's son came along.Quote:
Well Baby Bush has revenged his father...
It has only cost 3000 and counting US lives.
At this point I could careless what happens to him. Killing him won't change the situation there at all. Iraq is splinted country with no chance of a lasting unified peace.
As far as broadcast I think it won't be on the US networks, but it'll make its way onto Youtube soon enough.
I'd rather have him attached to a torture device for the rest of his life. Hanging seems like the easy way out.
The killing of Saddam is actually a huge mark in world history. It's right up there with the killing of Mussolini. Pardon me if it sounds barbaric of me, but I'd want to see video of itjust to witness that history. Heck, Mussolini hanging upside down at a gas station is in many high school history books.
So true Phil, it's getting close to dying time and Saddam needs to die. It's not about changing anything in Iraq. That has already taken place. The day the people were allowed to vote. Now a sentence is simply being carried out.Quote:
The killing of Saddam is actually a huge mark in world history. It's right up there with the killing of Mussolini. Pardon me if it sounds barbaric of me, but I'd want to see video of itjust to witness that history. Heck, Mussolini hanging upside down at a gas station is in many high school history books.
I'm afraid that actually didn't do that much in terms of the stability of Iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
But it remains a benchmark in history after many decades of oppresion and not being given the choice. Vote Saddam or die was your choices. Now this barbaric man is going to be put out of his misery and I think it is safe to say many will rejoyce over it. I will a little more pleased with this planet after the gallow has done its job on him. They are going to play with his head a little bit before they kill him with the red card deal etc etc I have also heard.
Has nothing to do with that. The whole freedom thing in Iraq is a process that doesn't just happen overnight.Quote:
I'm afraid that actually didn't do that much in terms of the stability of Iraq
10:05, he is dead, burn in hell.
Saddam has already been killed, I imagine we will see a video in the next few days.
No matter if you like Bush's policies or not, you have to admit, the world is a whole lot better off without Saddam on it.
Wow, happened so fast. I wonder if he knew that he wouldn't be seeing 2007.
Expect some tight security over the coming weeks at airports and landmarks.
I wasn't sure if it would go through, assuming something would stop the execution from happening. I'm jsut concerned about retaliation at this point.
I also wanted to point out how they go in threes:
James Brown, Gerald Ford and Saddam Hussein. I wonder who won THAT death pool!
WAIT! THISJUST IN!
http://www.madmustard.com/images/200...d%20Bob.th.jpg
"Saddam is not dead. He is alive and well. In fact, we have plans to compete in the World Mah Jong Championships next week against various Israeli leaders. Team Tanenbaum's goin DOWN. Praise Allah."
I agree, Saddam was an ass. However no one seems to have noticed that we still don't know whether Bin Laden is dead and he's affected me much more than Saddam has.Quote:
Originally Posted by nwafan20
Be patient, it doesn't happen overnight, we will find him eventually, believe me, we have been looking. It is only a matter of time...Quote:
Originally Posted by NcSchu
Video of Saddam's last moments (stops before they drop him):
http://video.ap.org/v/en-ap/fv/fv.htm?g ... d&f=NYNYP&
I wonder how quick it was.... As morbid as it sounds I am curious as to if he hit the bottom of the length and with the snap of his neck dies or if he suffocated for a few moments. I have never really studies the process etc....... I personally think it is a pretty cruel way to go save for a small group of evil people.
http://www.break.com/index/graphic_sadd ... video.html
This isn't the stock video being shown on the mainstream media. A shaky handheld.
OMG! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, we've wasted years, not to mention billions of dollars, and, oh, yeah, thousands of lives, with our little adventure into Iraq - which posed no real threat to the United States - when we should have been focused on Bin Laden, who had actually attacked us, killing thousands.Quote:
Originally Posted by nwafan20
No offense, but a lot of people think like that, but unfortunately that isn't the truth.
Saddam was an evil man, with chemical and biological weapons (recently just declassified that we found several tons of weapons of mass destruction)
His goal was to destroy the West. I, personally think we should have gone into Iran first, but I think the whole axis of evil should be taken out.
Bin Laden doesn't pose too much harm to us hiding in a cave somewhere, I am confident that we will find him eventually, the real threat right now in my eyes is Iran and North Korea.
Did ya hear how we uncovered a large force of adapted Mig jets in the Iraq sand?
Or how about the thousands of women and children that are now free in Iraq, who daily go up to our soldiers and try to give them gifts, or give them hugs.
Did you hear how most of Iraq cheered in the streets as the United States Armed Forces came into Iraq, to liberate its people?
Or how my cousin has 8 shoe boxes full of letters, notes, and pictures drawn by children, given to him as a thank you, while he served his 2 terms in Iraq
Or how my cousin handed out bags full of candy weekly to children, who were more than grateful for a little piece of candy.
They look at Americans as heroes, which may not be portrayed by today's Main stream Media.
Thank you!! Yes, Saddam was evil but look at Iran, North Korea, and Libya (until he got the idea). Going back into Iraq was Bush's objective and he used 9/11 to do it. We went into Afghanistan first and started cleaning house but once GW got the idea he could get into Iraq all the gears changed. It amazes me how little troops are in Afghanistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by moose135
Really? How would you compare and contrast Sadam's world view against, oh say, Al Sadr?Quote:
Originally Posted by nwafan20
I thought Iraq just about asked permission to invade Kuwait and the Bush 1 appointee blew it with a non committal response.
Then we put bases in Saudi Arabia ... to liberate Kuwait, and kept them there afterwards.. . [Not sure they vote too often over in Saudi Arabis by the way.].
Which likely sealed "911" with Bin Laden who was an ally in the previous liberation of Afghanistan from the Soviets - The Soviets, who ran in there in the face of our weak kneed response to US hostages being taken when our old buddy The Shah of Iran (renowned for Democracy no doubt) being ousted from Iran in a popular revolution (Special thanks to ally France for keeping the flame of Radical Islam burning all that time).
I can appreciate the neo-cons wanted to sit on Iraq, transform it to a friendly, stable democracy and then lean on Syria and Iran from there. But they miscalculated very badly. You need a much larger army to sit on a country the size of Iraq and bend it to your will.
Who drew the initial borders for Iraq anyway? Was it Britain?
What will happen with the Kurds? While the Sunnis and ****es settle matters, won't Turkey & Iran want to ensure there is no Kurdistan cutting into *their* borders?
There is some work to be done in Sudan though I think...
and Somalia where Ethiopia is taking care of business now, but don't our Gulf allies want to back Eritrea - and in turn the particular terrorists we are fighting in Iraq?
Your data is a bit skewed, I don't want to get into an argument, but so that people dont start believe what you said to be just the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by nwafan20
The WMDs recovered were pre-Gulf War and most of them were degraded to a point that they did not pose any threat to troops. Also, the report points out that the condition (desert) of the weapons would limit their use by insurgents.
Saddam's goal wasn't to destroy the West, simple as that. If you're going to argue Israel, than I must point out that his goals were centered around his opposition to the Israeli controlled Palestinian areas we are probably all familiar with.
Cave or no cave, Bin Laden, if alive, still has controlling power. There has been much precedent in terms of hidden leaders, so just because Bin Laden is "in a cave" doesn't mean he is powerless.
Most people welcomed us in the beginning, but a lot now want us to leave, that group is growing bigger everyday as the violence increases. Plus, a lot of people prefered the way under Hussein simply because there wasn't as much chaos as there is now.
Also, to bring this back to aviation, planes + sand = no planes :D