I am thinking about taking my mother to upstate New York to visit her family. We can either fly to SWF or HPN. In terms of weather delays, diversions, and cancellations, which airport is better to fly to?
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I am thinking about taking my mother to upstate New York to visit her family. We can either fly to SWF or HPN. In terms of weather delays, diversions, and cancellations, which airport is better to fly to?
I would say SWF. The airport has less traffic then HPN and things will move quicker, the airport also see's less diversions, cancellations, and delays considering the airport itself is a diversion airport.
It depends where "family" is. I'm partial to HPN since it is my home base, but it is very convenient and easy to get in/out of and there are many flights on a daily basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
Where would she be coming in from?
Simple answer, Stewart.... since the ATCT isn't ran by the FAA...
We would be coming from Orlando, FL. HPN is cheaper right now at $79 each way while JetBlue (MCO-SWF) is $99 to and $89 from. I suppose that financially it would be wiser to use AirTran's MCO/HPN service.
I've taken AirTran 673 from MCO to HPN numerous times and it has been nothing short of convenient for a fairly low cost. It is really easy to get in/out of HPN and the service on AirTran is always great (I've never had any delays on TRS at HPN). It depends on the day, but AirTran also offers Web Specials with fares as cheap as $59 each way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
Let us know what you ultimately decide on.
Regards,
Starting January 11th Air Tran will be flying MCO-SWF as well, starting prices are at $99 as well.
Were in the Hudson Valley are you planning on going? SWF is about 30-40 minutes further north then HPN which might be easier. Another reason to go with jet Blue and SWF is that, as I am sure you know, jet Blue offers leather seats and Direct TV unlike Air Tran.
Wow... I just realized I am really fighting for SWF here and HPNPilot is pulling for HPN, guess people really are loyal to their airports! :lol:
However you can't beat the free XM radio available for every seat on the TRS 717s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
Ya can't help it! Your home base is like a second home...come stay! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
jet Blue offers free XM as well. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by HPNPilot1200
But jetblue, let us know where in the Hudson Valley she would be going because that could determine a lot and whether or not you pay the extra $10 for jet Blue or stick with Air Tran.
I am going to Patterson, NY (near Carmel). I am really in the planning stages and trying to talk my mother into going. I know she will have a good time if she goes.
Well Paterson is about 32 miles from SWF and 35 miles from HPN however the driving time from HPN to Patterson is about 8 minutes less.
Both roads to Patterson are pretty direct so it really comes down to the fare, airline, and times of flights.
Here is jet Blue's schedule:
11:30 am Depart Orlando, FL (MCO)
2:10 pm Arrive Newburgh, NY (SWF)
6:35 pm Depart Orlando, FL (MCO)
9:15 pm Arrive Newburgh, NY (SWF)
Here is Air Tran's:
8:25 AM Depart MCO
10:56 AM Arrive HPN
5:13 PM Depart MCO
7:51 PM Arrive HPN
2:25 PM Depart MCO
4:55 PM Arrive SWF
So as we know jet Blue and Air Tran to SWF are $99 and Air Tran to HPN is $79.
jet Blue offers leather seats, xm radio, directTV, and A320s to an airport with less traffic.
Air Tran offers xm radio, 717s, and a $10 less fare into a more busy airport with longer lines probably.
Like HPN said let us know with what you go.
HPN is more busy than SWF?
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
HPN:
Departure City Airline Flight
Number Arrival
Time More Info
Washington, DC 71 02:52 AM Landed
Millville, NJ 36 04:42 AM Arrived
Manassas, VA 63 06:42 AM Arrived
Allentown, PA 58 07:43 AM Arrived
Burlington, VT 791 08:06 AM Arrived
Burlington, VT 486 10:07 AM Arrived
Lancaster, PA 560 10:11 AM Arrived
Washington, DC 71 10:13 AM Arrived
Allentown, PA 73 11:25 AM Arrived
Washington, DC 145 12:03 PM Arrived
Teterboro, NJ 25 12:47 PM Arrived
Cleveland, OH 437 01:11 PM Arrived
Lorain/Elyria, OH 539 02:27 PM Arrived
Jacksonville, FL 63 03:57 PM Planned
Toronto, ON Air Georgian 7418 09:20 AM Arrived
Toronto, ON Air Georgian 7422 05:07 PM Scheduled
Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin 3640 09:57 PM Arrived
Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 736A 10:24 PM Arrived
Washington, DC Air Wisconsin 3636 08:47 AM Arrived
Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 3962 12:30 PM Arrived
Washington, DC Air Wisconsin 3740 02:13 PM Arrived
Charlotte, NC Air Wisconsin 3976 04:53 PM Planned
Atlanta, GA Airtran Airways 661 09:21 PM Arrived
Orlando, FL Airtran Airways 678 11:44 AM Arrived
Baltimore, MD Airtran Airways 665 12:24 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA Airtran Airways 665 12:36 PM Arrived
West Palm Beach, FL Airtran Airways 663 12:37 PM Arrived
Tampa, FL Airtran Airways 647 01:55 PM Arrived
Fort Lauderdale, FL Airtran Airways 671 02:35 PM Arrived
Fort Myers, FL Airtran Airways 656 04:04 PM In Flight
Chicago, IL American Eagle 416 09:49 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 418 10:46 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 420 09:31 AM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 412 12:45 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 414 02:29 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 483 03:35 PM In Flight
Chicago, IL American Eagle 424 05:01 PM Scheduled
Chicago, IL American Eagle 436 05:54 PM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 158 09:16 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 392 11:41 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 216 02:25 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 90 04:15 PM In Flight
Atlanta, GA Atlantic Southeast Airlines 549 06:20 PM Scheduled
Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 334 07:04 AM Arrived
Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 248 07:16 AM Arrived
Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 434 08:59 AM Arrived
Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 253 09:03 AM Arrived
Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 327 10:44 AM Arrived
Bedford, MA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 420 01:31 PM Arrived
Philadelphia, PA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 335 02:39 PM Landed
Teterboro, NJ Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 617 02:44 PM Arrived
Bedford, MA Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 322 03:31 PM Planned
Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 326 04:03 PM Landed
Fort Lauderdale, FL Bombardier Business Jet Solutions 326 04:09 PM In Flight
Chicago, IL Chautauqua Airlines 7776 02:42 PM Arrived
State College, PA Colgan Air 5228 11:44 AM Arrived
Washington, DC Colgan Air 5228 12:28 PM Landed
Washington, DC Colgan Air 5234 10:53 PM Scheduled
Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 692 01:12 PM Arrived
Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 1390 04:07 PM In Flight
Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 390 05:24 PM Scheduled
Cincinnati, OH Comair Inc. 332 09:32 PM Scheduled
Boston, MA Commutair 8794 08:21 AM Arrived
Rochester, NY Commutair 8807 08:41 AM Arrived
Cleveland, OH Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 2370 09:11 AM Arrived
Hartford, CT Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 2370 01:00 PM Arrived
Cleveland, OH Continental Express/ExpressJet Airlines 3234 05:28 PM Scheduled
West Palm Beach, FL Corporate Wings 733 09:14 AM Arrived
West Palm Beach, FL Corporate Wings 928 12:26 PM Arrived
Fairhope, AL Corporate Wings 825 03:14 PM In Flight
Wilmington, DE Corporate Wings 470 03:45 PM Planned
Wilmington, DE Corporate Wings 470 03:56 PM In Flight
Sarasota, FL Corporate Wings 840 04:15 PM In Flight
Sarasota, FL Corporate Wings 482 04:17 PM In Flight
Jackson, WY Delta AirElite 477 07:23 PM Planned
Stuart, FL Executive Jet Aviation 861 09:09 PM Arrived
Charleston, SC Executive Jet Aviation 363 11:33 PM Arrived
West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 916 12:13 AM Arrived
Bedford, MA Executive Jet Aviation 606 09:25 AM Arrived
Washington, DC Executive Jet Aviation 948 09:34 AM Arrived
Sarasota, FL Executive Jet Aviation 315 11:23 AM Arrived
West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 227 12:24 PM Arrived
Melbourne, FL Executive Jet Aviation 614 01:26 PM Arrived
Poughkeepsie, NY Executive Jet Aviation 655 01:33 PM Arrived
Wilmington, NC Executive Jet Aviation 676 02:02 PM Arrived
Charlottesville, VA Executive Jet Aviation 978 03:10 PM Planned
Portland, ME Executive Jet Aviation 634 03:21 PM In Flight
Portland, ME Executive Jet Aviation 628 03:34 PM In Flight
Durango, CO Executive Jet Aviation 932 03:42 PM In Flight
Naples, FL Executive Jet Aviation 977 03:51 PM Planned
Chicago, IL Executive Jet Aviation 637 03:53 PM Planned
Executive Jet Aviation 331 04:07 PM Planned
West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 962 04:12 PM Planned
New London, CT Executive Jet Aviation 727 04:34 PM Planned
West Palm Beach, FL Executive Jet Aviation 929 05:50 PM Planned
Wilmington, NC Executive Jet Aviation 961 06:00 PM Planned
Toronto, ON Executive Jet Aviation 874 06:09 PM Planned
Tulsa, OK Executive Jet Aviation 712 06:36 PM Planned
Lawrenceville, GA Executive Jet Management 124 07:27 AM Arrived
New Haven, CT Executive Jet Management 979 08:25 AM Arrived
Manassas, VA Executive Jet Management 57 11:21 AM Arrived
Vail, CO Executive Jet Management 331 07:31 PM Planned
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 3788 10:37 PM Arrived
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2924 12:20 PM Arrived
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2944 03:13 PM In Flight
Minneapolis, MN Express Airlines 4752 04:51 PM In Flight
Cleveland, OH Five Star Airlines 408 12:28 PM Arrived
Orlando, FL Five Star Airlines 556 12:58 PM Arrived
Boca Raton, FL Five Star Airlines 608 02:02 PM Arrived
Toledo, OH Five Star Airlines 124 04:07 PM In Flight
Baltimore, MD HPJ *update 88 01:42 PM Arrived
Laurel, MS HPJ *update 65 03:53 PM In Flight
Punta Cana HPJ *update 203 06:43 PM Planned
Hartford, CT Northwest Air Services 52 08:03 AM Arrived
Plymouth, MA Northwest Air Services 268 03:26 PM Planned
Fort Lauderdale, FL Presidential Air 101 08:41 AM Arrived
Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7604 09:07 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7748 10:16 AM Arrived
Chicago, IL ShuttleAmerica 7584 04:49 PM Scheduled
Washington, DC TAG Aviation 465 07:14 AM Arrived
Oxford, CT TAG Aviation 520 09:00 AM Arrived
Napa, CA TAG Aviation 450 06:29 PM In Flight
West Palm Beach, FL United Executive Jet 850 04:07 PM Planned
Philadelphia, PA USAir Express 4515 02:38 PM Scheduled
SWF:
Philadelphia, PA 606 05:50 PM Planned
Philadelphia, PA Air Wisconsin 3602 12:32 AM Arrived
Halifax, NS Airborne Express 2254 03:01 PM In Flight
Saint Petersburg, FL Allegiant Air 869 10:28 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 29 09:41 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL American Eagle 21 12:23 PM Arrived
Huntsville, AL Corporate Wings 436 09:16 AM Arrived
Syracuse, NY Executive Jet Aviation 315 01:52 PM Arrived
Naples, FL Executive Jet Aviation 867 04:17 PM In Flight
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2862 11:15 PM Arrived
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2864 03:31 PM In Flight
Fort Lauderdale, FL Jetblue Airways 566 09:37 PM Arrived
Orlando, FL Jetblue Airways 576 01:43 PM Arrived
Saint Louis, MO Light Air Transport And Technical Services 7 07:05 AM Arrived
Louisville, KY United Parcel Service 1088 05:36 AM Arrived
Philadelphia, PA USAir Express 4631 11:19 AM Arrived
Express Airlines? Is that Pinnacle or Mesaba?Quote:
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2862 11:15 PM Arrived
Detroit, MI Express Airlines 2864 03:31 PM In Flight
Pinnacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by nwafan20
Yes, however the majority of the operations at HPN are bizjets, not airline flights.Quote:
Originally Posted by JetBlueAirwaysFan
I've never had to wait on a long line at HPN in the past few years. When I took TRS from HPN to MCO for the NBAA convention in October, I went through security in less than 5 minutes and the flight was right on time, we even landed 15 minutes early.
That is true however they do have more commercial flights then SWF does.Quote:
Originally Posted by HPNPilot1200
Correct. I believe a few carriers are trying to make SWF the "4th major NYC airport" but I don't currently know the status of that goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600
I have used both and amazingly live in Patterson NY !!!! Depends if you need a hire car or not. I think HPN has a better service on that side but if you are getting picked -up then I think it would be hard to chose between either. Probably just depend on your schedule compared with the timetables.
Mark E