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Originally Posted by Gerard
Saw on Newsday that they will be charging to get in on the Friday of the practice show for the first time. The fee will be $8.
Oh well. But as long as the "headliners" show up it is still better than dealing with the crowds Sat/Sun.
I don't think its all that bad going on Sat or Sun. Leaving an hour AFTER the show dramatically decreases the amount of traffic. I'm not surprised they started charging though because they just canceled the fireworks show.
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Parkgoers who have driven to Jones Beach on the Friday before the Memorial Day weekend the past seven years to see a free preview of the air show will be in for an unpleasant surprise this year:
The dress rehearsal will now cost them $8 per car.
Facing a massive budget cut and possible facility closings, the state parks agency will be imposing the weekday entrance fee for the first time. Last year about 30,000 people went to the park on that Friday in 5,500 cars. The entrance fee could generate $44,000 this year.
"We have seen an increase each year since we've been hosting the air show because the public has become aware that there is a practice on that Friday," said George Gorman Jr., deputy regional director of the state Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation. "We wanted to capture that potential revenue."
The agency doesn't publicize the practice day because it is not guaranteed to occur and even when it is held, some participants, including the headlining precision pilots of the Navy's Blue Angels or the Air Force's Thunderbirds, don't always show up.
On each of the weekend days, the crowd averages about 200,000 for the Bethpage Federal Credit Union Air Show and the event generates a profit that is supposed to be used for park capital projects - but that is not always the case. This year the entrance fee will be $10, up $2 from last year, because of higher beach fees imposed as part of the governor's proposed budget. The fee jumps $2 on Memorial Day weekend, when lifeguards begin protecting the beaches.
The weekend air show is canceled in event of bad weather but the $8 fee will be in effect on Friday unless the weather is so bad that it does not pay to put staff in place to collect the fee, Gorman said.
Not surprisingly, the new fee is not popular.
"It would be more justifiable if they would give us a sense that they would be working to keep the parks open with revenues they derive from special opportunities like this," said Assemb. Steven Englebright (D-Setauket), chairman of the Tourism and Parks Committee.
Malcolm MacKay of Brooklyn, head of the Jones Beach Rescue Organization, a new support group, said "We really regret this extra charge, but on the other hand we recognize the state is in terrible financial condition."
--Newsday
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Hey if they actually use it for the beach let them charge $8. The beach has been going downhill and I would like to see it as it was when I was a kid. Clean sand, a far walk to the water's edge and a good looking boardwalk.
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Originally Posted by NLovis
Hey if they actually use it for the beach let them charge $8. The beach has been going downhill and I would like to see it as it was when I was a kid. Clean sand, a far walk to the water's edge and a good looking boardwalk.
I'm with you. I don't mind paying if it's going to the right place. It encourages the organizers to strive to make the show bigger & better every year, which for the most part has happened.
After the turnout to last years practice, I'm not surprised they decided to charge though. There were a ton of people at the beach last year on Friday and they could have pocketed thousands of $$ if they had charged that day. Not to mention, I'm sure they didn't make as much as they wanted to on Sunday because of the crappy weather. The year before, the lots were at capacity by 10am.
The fireworks thing is the doing of the Park Police. Due to budget cuts, they felt that they wouldn't have enough personal on hand to secure the event so they canceled it.
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[quote=Big Tim #70][quote="The fireworks thing is the doing of the Park Police. Due to budget cuts, they felt that they wouldn't have enough personal on hand to secure the event so they canceled it.[/quote]
Interesting especially since State PD and NCPD and probably SCPD all supplement the security.
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[quote=Gerard][quote=Big Tim #70]
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Originally Posted by "The fireworks thing is the doing of the Park Police. Due to budget cuts, they felt that they wouldn't have enough personal on hand to secure the event so they canceled it.[/quote
Interesting especially since State PD and NCPD and probably SCPD all supplement the security.
I think there is a lot more then meets the eye here. I think its politics at its best. They cancel something many LI'ers love (The Fireworks) and now people will be more upset. If the parks dept says "its because of budget cuts and not enough Parks Police", then people may try and do whatever they can to get the Parks budget restored.
The ONLY difference I see between the Air Show and the Fireworks is that there may be a little more SCPD and NCPD available to support the Parks Police for Air Show weekend. That being said, both weekends are a high Drunk Driver ratio, and all police should be out in full force, so who knows.
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Leave it to Newsday to let the cat out of the bag regarding the Friday show. Watch it get swamped now! :evil:
Seriously though, I'm more than happy to pay the $8.
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Originally Posted by mirrodie
Leave it to Newsday to let the cat out of the bag regarding the Friday show. Watch it get swamped now! :evil:
LOL I was thinking the same thing. Sooooo many people didnt know about it.
Seriously though, I'm more than happy to pay the $8.
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Me too 8)
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Hello,
I'm new here, however, I have been following this topic for a while. I didn't see any mention of anything with regards to fighter jets coming in to Republic today, however 2 came in a few minutes to 4. I took a ride over to the airport to see them, however, I was unable to find them, plus they have New Highway blocked off for construction. Any idea why they're here? It seems a little early for the Air Show.
Thanks,
Joe
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Originally Posted by Joe
Hello,
I'm new here, however, I have been following this topic for a while. I didn't see any mention of anything with regards to fighter jets coming in to Republic today, however 2 came in a few minutes to 4. I took a ride over to the airport to see them, however, I was unable to find them, plus they have New Highway blocked off for construction. Any idea why they're here? It seems a little early for the Air Show.
Thanks,
Joe
The F-18's that came in today are unrelated to the airshow. It's still pretty cool though.
P.S. Welcome to NYCA
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Great pics!!!
Someone said they are going to leave between 1-1:30PM on Sunday.
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FYI ED Hamill is suppose to have is plane in the hanger tonight at SheltAir ;)
OLD PHOTO
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._VauDb-L-1.jpg
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Is he coming in early and staying until the show, or is he gonna leave and come back?
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Originally Posted by Fighting_falcon_51
Is he coming in early and staying until the show, or is he gonna leave and come back?
He is not flying in, he is having his plane flown in. I can not imagine he would relocate his plane here to up and move it
to then bring it back....but then again, during airshow, I do not bank on anything! ;)
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Originally Posted by Derf
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Originally Posted by Fighting_falcon_51
Is he coming in early and staying until the show, or is he gonna leave and come back?
He is not flying in, he is having his plane flown in. I can not imagine he would relocate his plane here to up and move it
to then bring it back....but then again, during airshow, I do not bank on anything! ;)
Too bad he isn't gonna fly it up. I was hoping for some pre-show aerobatics.
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You will not be let down there...He loves early morning dawn flights to the Statue of Liberty ;)
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You will not be let down there...He loves early morning dawn flights to the Statue of Liberty ;)
Awesome!
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rev 5.8.10-13:36AMEST
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Added:Events: Ed Hamill's The Dream Machine Arrival
Added: Events:Download the arrival times and general info guide to bring with you to Republic Airport!
Updated: Live at KFRG
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Additional Info:
Ed Hamill will not be the person flying the Dream Machine in tomorrow
The Dream Machine's arrival time is unknown
5/15/10 8:50 AM Update: Ed Hamill's plane has arrived at Republic Airport.
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The plane got in last night around 8pm.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N89PS
From the looks of the route, he was dodging weather the whole way up from LA.
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Someone said that they saw Ed Hamill's bi-plane flying around at 1:30. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
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Originally Posted by Fighting_falcon_51
Someone said that they saw Ed Hamill's bi-plane flying around at 1:30. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
It wasnt a bi-plane but someones red sports plane was buzzing the skies over FRG. I saw it just as it was
being pushed into the hangar by Shakalis Aviation over by 109. I've seen this plane before but its ID escapes
me at the moment.
OK just did quick research and I believe it was David Windmiller and his plane.
Also New Highway is open. Apparently the crews work Mon-Fri 7AM to 5PM.
And I was stopped at the light at Conklin/110 and N355AG fully hooked up with nose ball camera took off
and flew slow and low north along 110 heading out eventually NW. Looked very cool. 8)
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Originally Posted by Gerard
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Originally Posted by Fighting_falcon_51
Someone said that they saw Ed Hamill's bi-plane flying around at 1:30. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
It wasnt a bi-plane but someones red sports plane was buzzing the skies over FRG. I saw it just as it was
being pushed into the hangar by Shakalis Aviation over by 109. I've seen this plane before but its ID escapes
me at the moment.
OK just did quick research and I believe it was David Windmiller and his plane.
Also New Highway is open. Apparently the crews work Mon-Fri 7AM to 5PM.
And I was stopped at the light at Conklin/110 and N355AG fully hooked up with nose ball camera took off
and flew slow and low north along 110 heading out eventually NW. Looked very cool. 8)
They said it was an all red plane and I guess they assumed it was Ed Hamill because he just came in thats why I questioned it here. So it was probably David Windmiller.
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At last year's show, Thunderbird pilot Maj. John Baum visited my school, hopefully my school can set up another assembly featuring a performer from this year's airshow. I always love this time of the year, it's awesome sitting in class taking a test...only for it to be disrupted by a loud roar as the Thunderbirds/Blue Angels fly over as they land at Republic.
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Here's a link to the full size images if anyone wants them:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50204351@N ... 948506341/
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Chuck Aaron tweeted this:
http://twitpic.com/1n806e :borat:
and then this:
http://twitpic.com/1o8u5u :(
Ouch.
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Originally Posted by Fighting_falcon_51
The second pic didn't look too bad, he has over a week to get it fixed before the show :)
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It's not a Ford, you can't just go get parts.
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It's not a Ford, you can't just go get parts.
And the MBB BO-105 production line was shutdown in 2001.
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Hopefully he can get it fixed before the show. I'll send him a tweet.
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Hope to get the heli fixed soon and fly to the Jones Beach Air Show, May 28-29-30.
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Wow, Klatt made it up too? A lot of the performers made it in early. When did he come?
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I think today... I like how he has a single seater and a 2 seater!.... That make 3 so far
A quick preview of the show
http://derf.smugmug.com/Aviation/201...22_GYaYf-L.jpg
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Wow I didn't know he had two planes. Can't wait until next week.
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First off, let me introduce myself to the lovely people here at NYCA. My name is Rob, I live approximately 2 miles from runway 32, just south of Sunrise Highway in Lindenhurst. I'm only 17, so you will have to bear with my limited knowledge of aircraft...but I like to think I'm still an aviation enthusiast at heart :) I live pretty much directly in line with the final approach to runway 32, so this time of the year is always awesome. My friends think I'm a weirdo because I sit at my window while LiveATC.net plays and I see the planes coming in to land..but I gotta tell you...it was awesome hearing Thunderbird 7 chat with the ATC last year...I managed to get a few recordings, if I get the chance would it be cool to post them here?
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Originally Posted by Derf
First off, let me introduce myself to the lovely people here at NYCA. My name is Rob, I live approximately 2 miles from runway 32, just south of Sunrise Highway in Lindenhurst. I'm only 17, so you will have to bear with my limited knowledge of aircraft...but I like to think I'm still an aviation enthusiast at heart :) I live pretty much directly in line with the final approach to runway 32, so this time of the year is always awesome. My friends think I'm a weirdo because I sit at my window while LiveATC.net plays and I see the planes coming in to land..but I gotta tell you...it was awesome hearing Thunderbird 7 chat with the ATC last year...I managed to get a few recordings, if I get the chance would it be cool to post them here?
Welcome to your new home..... :borat:
Anything aviation is cool..... just do not say that outside the forum, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND OUTSIDE THE FORUM! :wink:
