I don't really get it either Cary. Do you think rotating the image cw pre-crop would help with the appearance? On a side note, that image overlay is ****ing my eyes all up bro lol.
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I don't really get it either Cary. Do you think rotating the image cw pre-crop would help with the appearance? On a side note, that image overlay is ****ing my eyes all up bro lol.
A little rotation might help, but I'd prefer not altering the original angle just to get a photo accepted. I might just push the fuselage down by 5px instead, and hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
Sorry, I wanted to simulate spotting while drunk in that overlay :)
It's like 3D man!
I'm with you on the centering Cary - I've never had that - a winglet factored into the centering - I've always used the center of the cropping tool on the window line of the aircraft - and never had a centering rejection...that's all kind of angles as well - can you post anything on the a.net forums?
Well, I guess I pushed a wrong button, because one of the head screeners thought I posted the examples because I thought they were flawed. I thought it was obvious I posted them because those were examples where the fuselage was centered, regardless of where the winglet was. My gosh.
LOL. How did I know you were going to use the same pics on anet as you did here.
The images you linked are all high in the frame. Of course, that doesn't mean that yours can slip by too
I almost pissed myself after I read this.
Cary using pics already in the DB is never a good idea. Even when you have an argument. Better to just post rejection when asking for help. Personally I think your shot needed maybe 3 minutes to redo by just dropping the fuselage in the frame ever so slightly to get it accepted. Not sure you needed to start two threads on it. Not to mention alienating the people that screen your shots.
Why is it such a no-no to post examples that you think are good/the standard? If you want to figure out how to center something that might have different centering criteria than normal, you look to the database to find what screeners accept, and those were examples I found, where a 767 with winglets were at a high angle. So my point was "I thought it was the standard to center the fuselage regardless of how high a winglet is, based on all the photos I looked at - can you tell me how to fix it?" Sure, I can drop the fuselage ever so slightly, but what if it's still too high? What if it's too low? That's why I needed to know what specifically should be centered in this case. Don't know how that question alienates screeners.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
Cary,
I think you are correct... I always center on the ENTIRE fuselage, not the center of it. I use centered HOR and VER guides and then using the marque tool I draw equally while snapping the center (ALT+CLICK+DRAG) and draw until I touch the entire fuselage. If it is not centered perfectly, I will go back to the Lightroom original and re-crop/center. Unfortunately I can not do this with LR and must use visual queues to help me.
I see what they're saying but at the end of the day I'd rather center by the fuselage. But you're also talking to someone who thinks the concept of centering is kind of crap to begin with.
Nothing as long as they don't include pictures already accepted. You could have done a re-edit and posted that. Or asked what they look for when centering.Quote:
Why is it such a no-no to post examples that you think are good/the standard?
As for the centering issue you really can't focus on the fuselage only in shots that include banking and not flying level. The wing and or winglet will represent part of the entire subject and need to be taken into account. If you notice here.
If you just take the fuselage into account when centering the wing would be chopped so I had to center taking the wings and fuselage together as one as just looking at the fuselage it's well below the centerline.
In other words, they know they're inconsistent. Problem is, you're not supposed to know it. So keep it under your hats!
Well, I think it's only because there's a stigma attached to people posting database photos to say "hey, these are so much worse than mine...why didn't I get accepted?" If you are using database examples with the understanding that they were accepted because they were correctly screened, and that is how your photo should look if you want it accepted, I don't see the problem. But yeah, I probably won't be posting examples in any context again, and doing a re-edit and posting that for opinions is a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
Yeah, I would obviously move the fuselage if something would be chopped off, but it was always my understanding to center the fuselage if nothing is getting cut off.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
Well, I'll just center it so it looks centered in thumbnail view, and we'll see how it goes.
Just got this one from my "2011 Phoenix AZ Airport Tour"
http://www.jetphotos.net//viewreject_b.php?id=3405800
Think there is any hope for it editing or a smaller size?
Jeremy,
Send me an original and let me see what I can pull off... if it is minor, you can usually make it look more acceptable using Smart Sharpen. Let me see what I can do...
manny (at) manny (dot) org
Thanks Manny, coming your way.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzalu