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Yes,
I figured you would know him. Yes is a very cool guy.
He flew on the Concorde to NYwhen he came to visit me once. He was sitting to my right when I flew into CGX a few years back.
http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/Cgx-17.jpg
Jetinder I'll PM you as Phil suggested.
Senga
PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil D.
Sorry about that I didn't mean to upset any one by my last post.
photo i took of G-BOAC two Saturday's ago arriving into a rainy MAN
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2...oto0251dl4.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2...97bd45fc9b.jpg
Thats a great photo as you can almost physically feel how wet and cold the day was.
Did any one get any photos of G-BOAD when New York had snow ?
When she goes back to Intrepid will she have a tent put over her (when they know) bad weather is coming as her sisters have or will have hangers to go in to.
>When she goes back to Intrepid will she have a tent put over her (when they know) bad weather is coming as her sisters have or will have hangers to go in to.<
LOL, uh not to be disrespectful, but you are kidding arent you?
No worries :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
I ain't kidding just wondering what will happen to her in bad weather when
she goes back, will Intrepid put a tent or marquee over her to protect her ?
Open to the elements 24/7, 365.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetinder
At least as far as I know. Then again what the heck do I know. :D
[quote="Gerard"]Hey guys and girls the Encore Mystery Channel (352 on iO Cablevision on L.I.) this Saturday morning at 2AM is showing.............
"The Concorde: Airport '79"
Watched this "movie" last night and boy was it Baaaaaaad!!!! But some cool Concorde footage.
Hey i didnt know that the Concorde could do barrel rolls, loops and violent evasive maneuvers? Here it can.
But on a serious side, I read on the IMDB board for this yarn that the plane used in the movie, F-BTSC was the Air France Concorde that crashed
on take-off in 2000 in France killing all on board. That's a little creepy.
I watched that a few times and I agree with you, it was a bad movie with the classic "plastic" stereo type actors, the scenes with the real Concorde in it where great though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
The original Airport (one with the 707 stuck in snow) was the best out of the lot.
Phil
Has there been any update on G-BOAD ?
Have you got any new photos of her ?
Jetinder, nothing's changed as of yet. Current photos were taken by someone else who may or may not post them here.
HI
I am a English guy in New York and the other day cycling around flat bush I saw G-BOAD in this state in a car park, when I was 17 I too stood in a car park, but it was Heathrow airport and I watched the first passenger maiden flight of Concord out of the UK. I cant tell you how sad I am to see her in this state. I have checked the UK news sites including the BBC and the truck indecent has not made it to the UK.
Count me in for any groups who want to help G-BOAD
John
I just learned that British Airways has agreed to pay to repair the broken radome from Concorde G-BOAD at Floyd Bennett Field. I still don't know if the original piece will be used or if a totally new part will be used. What happened to the broken piece anyway? Was it retrieved or stolen? Concorde fans would prefer the original piece be re-attached, if possible. I still feel that the trucking company causing the accident should be liable but the case would have to go to court and could take years to settle. I have avoided seeing this Concorde after the accident. Seeing a Concorde with a broken nose is like seeing a Broadway musical with no orchestra.
Thats brilliant but G-BOAD is in Intrepid's care so Intrepid or more accurately Floyd Bennett Field / the truck which hit her should have paid for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedbird1
From the photos i saw on here i guess the nose would have been very very badly damaged, considering G-BOAD will never fly a car body repair shop (see firms like ones on Pimp my ride) could have done a brilliant repair job to it with fiber glass....... but who knows.Quote:
I still don't know if the original piece will be used or if a totally new part will be used.
If the original was not broken or was repairable then yes, if the nose is to badly broken then its best to have a new one put on her.Quote:
Concorde fans would prefer the original piece be re-attached, if possible.
I agree.Quote:
I still feel that the trucking company causing the accident should be liable but the case would have to go to court and could take years to settle.
......... it hurts like hell but no use crying over spilled milk....... whats done is done, best thing to do is get her fixed and make sure she is safe.Quote:
Seeing a Concorde with a broken nose is like seeing a Broadway musical with no orchestra.
I would imagine the fabrication cost of a nose cone built to original specs is well higher than the value of the truck that hit it! Not even worth suing.
The nose will be fixed at FBF just before they move the plane next month.
Since her grounding, since BA and Air France sold off or scrapped all of her spare parts i'm not sure if they had a spare nose cone lying around......
It depends on wether or not BA chose to make it to original specs or wether they chose to go just for looks and had one made which looks original but nothing else, after all she'll never fly so whats the point of spending huge sums making one to original spec....... dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
Brilliant news :) Next month is the 5th anniversary of my flight on her from LHR-JFK, so moving her to safe place will be perfect timing.Quote:
The nose will be fixed at FBF just before they move the plane next month.
I also concur with all the postings. I am especially ashamed as I am a Brooklynite. Aviator Sports was entrusted with caretaking for an historic airliner and did not do a proper job. Besides the nose incident, I saw graffitti, Concorde engines exposed to the elements, etc. It's now amusing that the guard at Aviator yelled at me several times for taking so many photos through the fence. Where was he when the truck crashed into the aircraft? I had visited the Concorde on several occasions there before the nose damage and had a great time at Floyd Bennett Field. Private tours were given of the old Control Tower and the hangar with old aircraft is great! After the damage, I refused to visit, as I would find the images too disturbing for me as an avid Concorde fan. Fortunately, she was repaired but now it costs over $20 to visit her at the Intrepid Pier. I am grateful for Phil's editorial as he echoes my feelings. Hopefully, G-BOAD will be well-guarded by the Intrepid
>Fortunately, she was repaired but now it costs over $20 to visit her at the Intrepid Pier.
Well if you are spending $20 just to visit the Concorde then that is steep but last I looked there are a ton of things to
do at the Intrepid and $20 aint so bad.
:)
You have nothing to be ashamed of, you and others on here did your very best to tell the world about her and to keep an eye on her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedbird1
Thanks to you guys in New York we all saw how badly she was looked after by Floyd Bennett Field.
What amazes me is how the security staff started yelling at you for taking photos, but didn't do a thing to stop that truck from ripping her nose off. You didn't do anything wrong, you didn't do anything bad.
Those security guards are a bunch of idiots, if they did their job properly then none of the damage and heart ache would have happened.
$20 is steep to see her but if Intrepid look after then good on them. if you do go on her and you're allowed to go to the back you'll see my seat next to the window.
I contacted the Port Authority back when G-BOAD was looking for a home and I got a response. They weren't interested in giving her a home. JFK would have been the perfect place, too. They gave several reasons, including no room but I forgot the others. I agree with the other posters here that JFK has plenty of room, especially at the main entrance at the Van Wyck. Instead, they are using that space for advertising signs. I also believe that they don't want to see a steady crowd of aviation enthusiasts coming to see G-BOAD on a daily basis. The Port is not "camera-friendly", if you know what I mean. Also, housing the Concorde gives the PA no revenue. How could they charge to see an aircraft outside in the open? Money is probably the real reason. Do you think if the Intrepid Museum was free to the public that they would accomodate the aircraft? No way!
Thanks for your support and understanding. The guards by the Concorde in Brooklyn were very nasty as you say. Unfortunately, the accident where the truck crashed into Concorde's nose happened in the middle of the night, when the guards were off-duty however Aviator Sports should have had surveillance cameras turned-on 24/7. I can't say if that would have helped but maybe it would have. Another problem, the fence they built around "Alpha-Delta" didn't fully extend to protect her droop nose. Her nose was hanging over the fence so she was a sitting target just waiting for that accident to happen. Again, I point fingers at both Aviator Sports as well as the driver of the truck.
Speedbird1
You're welcome :)
Thats basically the same story with BA. On the surface they are "interested" in Concorde but from what i heard unofficially their managers don't care.Quote:
I contacted the Port Authority back when G-BOAD was looking for a home and I got a response. They weren't interested in giving her a home.
Its extremely depressing and sad to think that the flag ship of my country is now being treated like rubbish by every one who was meant to look after her.
G-BOADs sister G-BOAB is still at Heathrow outside the old Concorde hangers see
:-
http://concorde35mm.110mb.com/page18.html
there where roomers to get her put inside or outside the new Terminal 5, but so far thats not happened.
When any one tries to speak to Heathrow management about her, they don't get a reply so who knows whats happening to her.
>Although at the time her nose was busted there where no "patrolling" security guards, as you said they did have 24 hr CCTV and they could have easily got the trucks number plate from that and fined the driver.<
Actually he wrote "They SHOULD HAVE HAD surveillance cameras turned on 24-7" but they really didnt need them since wasnt
the truck there contracted out to remove equipment from some type of fair? Would have been easy to ask the fair organizers
the name of the moving/trucking company that was used. And not even sure if legally anything could have been done against
the driver. Maybe sue the company to pay for fixing the broken nose.
Did anyone contact the National Park Service about the damage as they are one of a number of official partners of Aviator.
The whole list is on their website (including the US Army).
the people that did this should be locked up for this (no offense). but this is something we thought of,designed and built and conquered.
concorde when i went to see it about 4-5 years ago when i was around 8 i was said that it wasent flying anymore but these are kept in perfect flying order and could probably still take of today.
but the pics that i have now seen from the one we gave you is bad.such an achievement lying there unwanted were ther are loads of airports in the uk that are probably willing to sell themselves just to get one of these on their land for even a minute.
ps son of concorde rumors spread that a son of concorde that would travel twice as fast as her old sister is a concept idea.
and this is what there meant to look like
http://www.grouptravelorganiser.com/ass ... llsize.JPG
concorde at manchester IN WORKING ORDER with all seats cockpit and bits still attcacthced even has her own hanger.
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