Go ask MCC. Unless JG, JC, and others are wrong. Maybe it has a diff name?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCMedic
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Go ask MCC. Unless JG, JC, and others are wrong. Maybe it has a diff name?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCMedic
Another short hello from US LGA, and a few coments.
Sergio got a shot of Ship 106 on Tuesday, ironically 106 operated US 938/1549 on the 12th, 13th, and the 15th.
Most of you know of all the deserved recognition the Captain is getting, here is a significant one,
Dear Fellow USAPA Pilots,
This afternoon at approximately 12:15, Captain Sullenberger received a phone call from President Bush congratulating him on his efforts during yesterday's accident and rescue. The president said he was in awe of Capt. Sullenberger's flying skills.
Capt. Sullenberger thanked President Bush, but added that it was a team effort and required the assistance of his First Officer Jeff, and flight attendants Donna, Doreen and Sheila. He stated that, as professional airline pilots, we face risks and challenges every day, and we're really just doing our jobs. On this particular occasion, he said, we are particularly gratified by the outcome.
For those interested I understand Dateline NBC is doing there entire show on US 1549 tonight, Friday at 2200 on NBC.
Flight 1549's Flight number has been retired, starting today it is now US 1543, and in the Feburary schedule change it returns to it's normal A-321 aircraft type, which it is most of the year due to demand.
There have been many coments on this site and elsewhere about the Passengers behavior, especially compared to the recent Walmart tragedy, and I have a partial theory. Most Thursday afternoons US's last 3 LGA-CLT Mainline flights starting with 1549 are primarily buisness travelers, it is comon to have 30-40 passengers on the upgrade to First standby lists and at least typcially 75 pct of the aircraft being passengers in the Top 3 levels of US's frequent flyer program, Chairmans, Platinum and Gold. While even if I had info about this for 1549 which I do not I would not post it here but I do suspect there where are large number of very FF's on this flight. I understand Bank of America alone had 23 employees onboard according to the media.
Many of you have seen the flight path on Passur. I live in the Bedford Park area of the Bronx and most Runway 4 departures pass right over us, it appears 1549 did indeed pass right overhead my neighborhood and it had already started down by then, with my 2 year old daughter and wife down there it gives me my own personal thanks to the Captain for his Glider skills.
And lastly EMSHighway sorry I missed you last night, I was briefly in Loretta's office around 1230, lot's of people so I guessed I did not see you.
Thanks to all for the positve feedback.
LGA777
I just sat with Haroon and Vinny and we went over the Manuals and Panel posters and couldn't find anything. Vinny said the only thing Boeing has is support so that the cargo doors don't implode and the pressurization outflow valve can be manually closed so as not to let water in. A few line guys were just in the office and confirmed it as well. You should know better than to listen to JC....... :wink:
I took pictures this morning at Battery Park and NJ of the plane.. After taking shots at Battery Park, I hoped on the PATH train and got off at Exchange Place to shoot from NJ.
Here are 4 shots from Battery Park
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...IMG_5964-1.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/IMG_5965.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/IMG_5968.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/IMG_5969.jpg
And 1 from NJ
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/IMG_5970.jpg
Heads up reporters, on ABC they are giving a 10AM ETA to lift the aircraft out of the water.
Bundle up and good hunting.
>Flight 1549's Flight number has been retired,<
It has also been retired by the NYS Lottery. SAles of that number for Pick Four were so heavy that the lottery
people have stopped selling it. In fact it is sold out through Tuesday.
Amazing.
Thanks for the heads up on the lift, guess I'm heading back out in the morning!
I was over in Jersey City for a few hours this afternoon and got a few shots:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/4...57_8KBrS-L.jpg
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/4...66_fJWZ6-L.jpg
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/4...98_kz9TP-L.jpg
Moose, what time you was there? I was there about 11AM shooting pictures too
Must have just missed you Sergio. I got there a little after Noon (EXIF on my first shot says 12:24pm) I shot for a little while, grabbed some lunch, then headed back over when there was a little better light on the plane.
Yea I left around 11:45AM we did missed each other lolQuote:
Originally Posted by moose135
Not to toot my own horn, but...first photo on JP.net, just added as a Hot Photo:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6463659
Moose, you can toot your own horn all you want, it's a great shot and caption, you took your time, gas, and energy and braved the COLD to get it, you deserve to toot.
LGA777
US has released details on the crew in this internal memo to staff, I find it interesting in their mix as far as who they started with.
Announcement Regarding Flight #1549: Update #8
Jan. 16, 2009
US Airways has released the names of the crew on board Flight 1549.
Captain Chesley B. Sullenberger, III, age 58, joined US Airways (PSA Airlines) in 1980. He has a total of 19,663 flight hours.
First officer Jeffrey B. Skiles, age 49, joined US Airways (USAir) in 1986. He has a total of 15,643 flight hours.
Flight Attendant Sheila Dail, age 57, joined US Airways (Piedmont Airlines) in 1980 and has more than 28 years experience with the airline.
Flight Attendant Doreen Welsh, age 58, joined US Airways (Allegheny Airlines) in 1970 and has more than 38 years experience with the airline.
Flight Attendant Donna Dent, age 51, was hired by US Airways (Piedmont Airlines) in 1982 and has more than 26 years with the airline.
In a press conference earlier today, US Airways Chairman and CEO Doug Parker said, “I, like the rest of you, am extremely proud of our crew for their quick and heroic actions. Today they are safe and doing well, and along with so many other members of our team, are assisting with the official investigation. In the meantime, our continued focus and support will be on our passengers, their families and our crew.”
Flight 1549 was involved in an accident en route to Charlotte, N.C. from LaGuardia, N.Y. Airline officials are in direct contact with local, state and national authorities and are cooperating fully with emergency response efforts. US Airways has activated the “US Airways Care” team of specially trained employee volunteers to assist families and passengers.
Individuals who believe they may have family members on board flight 1549 may call US Airways at 1-800-679-8215 within the United States. This number can be reached toll-free from international locations through AT&T’s USADirect®. To contact an AT&T operator, please visit http://www.usa.att.com/traveler for USADirect® access codes
While this was a Senior crew trust me it not unusual at all to see an entire US Crew this senior. This is one of the reasons I always feel so safe flying on US.
Regards
LGA777
That's something, Ron - the 49 year old FO is the "kid" of the crew!
Not to mention, he went to Jersey!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LGA777
Not knowing the exact location of the aircraft, I arrived a Bowling green at Battery park, and worked my way north. For anyone who wants to visit, its location is in the proximity of Chambers street, on the west side. I also arrived just as the sun was setting.
Here are some photos:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...9-01-16021.jpg
(the area, and you can see the tail)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...9-01-16030.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...9-01-16044.jpg
also got this one:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...9-01-16005.jpg
The photos are nothing to be proud of, but it was still nice to see it.
I was down there after school today from like 2-4:30; and then went over to Jersey for some shots there.
I'll be out there tomorrow, so if anyone is heading out feel free to shoot me a pm. From around 8:30 to whenever it finishes.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3155.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3452.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3250.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3162.jpg
These two were taken in NJ just as the sun was going down, so I had to crank up the ISO.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3573.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3603.jpg
I wonder where the best spot would be to see it being lifted... across the water or by the park or in the middle where the OEM trucks were?
Regarding the ditching switch , found this online.
http://www.airbusdriver.net/
He's a USAirways guy , lots of good info on the 'bus
Quote:
17. What does the DITCHING pb do? PHB 10.5.4
The DITCHING pb on the pressurization panel, when selected ON, allows the pilot to close all exterior openings
below the flotation line. This will enhance flotation of the aircraft in case of ditching.
System sends a ?close? signal to:
• Outflow valve (if not in manual control)
• Emergency ram air inlet
• Avionics ventilation inlet and extraction valves
• Pack flow control valves
• Forward cargo isolation outlet valve (if installed)
Courtesy of USCG...Check out how FAST the plane just came to stop! :shock:
http://cgvi.uscg.mil/media/main.php?...avId=xc25287b0
That first boat was there in under 3 minutes. This truly was a best case scenario. I am very glad to know the outstanding, job done by all under truly unique circumstances.
[quote="moose135"]Thanks for the heads up on the lift, guess I'm heading back out in the morning!
Your welcome but you guys do know you are NUTS!!!!??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Its friggin 3 degrees out as I write this!!!!
Happy hunting. And nice shot of the HH-65. I heard on the news that USCG Air Station Atlantic City scrambled
3 helos on Thursday anticipating the worse case scenario. And nice job by NYPD Air/Sea Rescue 23. Their deployed
divers were right on time rescuing a passenger who was in the water and in extreme distress. Interesting to see # 23
used for Air/Sea Rescue as that is their "Command & Control" aircraft. I would also have to guess that aviation assests
all over the area were put on alert for SAR duties.
Still get chills watching the footage/pictures. Just a wonderful story to start the New year.
Breaking News on CNN that PETA is preparing to sue US Airways, the FAA, PA of NY & NJ, Airbus and just about
anyone else involved on behalf of the poor geese who lost their lives in Thursdays unfortunate accident.
:lol:
Actually there was a caller to talk radio the other day DEFENDING the geese!!
OY!!
Fox News just showed a new video with an even closer view of the touchdown. Amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellyrose
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html ... d=playlistQuote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
Here are a few of my shots from the night of the ditching
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456316810_fV3uV-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456318087_gCraJ-M.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456316545_9V72Q-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456316215_eGK8X-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456321846_Q9aaB-L.jpg
Other side of the road!
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456318657_JXdtu-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456317772_A5Xmq-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456318372_Df3hr-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456319311_twkaw-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456323398_wT63H-L.jpg
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/456323029_YSZmp-L.jpg
Thanks for the company as always Moose :borat:
No, the right engine (or whatever is left of it) is still on the wing. The right wing is presently tucked under the pier.Quote:
Originally Posted by AirtrafficController
Do you think I just pull info out of orifices??? The news only tells what it knows. :wink:
The first 2 calls to 911 have been released
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...cal&id=6610060
Four minutes later - at 3:33 p.m. - a woman called in from Manhattan to report the plane had hit the water.
"Yes, a-a-a plane had just crashed into the Hudson River," she said. "A US Air big DC 9 or 10 has crashed into the Hudson River, about ... in ... Oh my gosh!"
I believe that was the female reporter from ABC 7 making that call.........
Pilot's last words to ATC: “We’re going to be in the Hudson.”
NY Times:
Very interesting details in this article. I'd imagine the transcript will be online somewhere tonight, I'll post when I find it.Quote:
Investigators Offer Details of Flight’s Few Minutes
By AL BAKER and MATTHEW L. WALD
Published: January 17, 2009
Investigators on Saturday provided a detailed and griping description of the abortive five-minute flight of US Airways 1549 that ended safely in the Hudson River based on transcripts of air traffic controllers and interviews with flight attendants.
In a news conference conducted by Kathryn O. Higgins, a member of National Transportation Safety Board who is investigating Thursday’s incident, she revealed how the pilots knew after they hit a flock of birds 90 seconds into their flight bound for Charlotte, N.C., and lost thrust in both engines that the river might be their last and only option.
She relayed the chilling conversation with air traffic controllers that ended abruptly with the warning of one of the plane’s pilot, “We’re gonna be in the Hudson.”
[snip]
Radar from Kennedy and Newark Airport confirmed that the aircraft had intersected “primary targets” between 2,900 feet and 3,000 feet, Ms. Higgins said, almost certainly birds that were about five miles from LaGuardia Airport. [Full Article]
(This is me Phil, not Mel typing) Listening to those tapes is very disturbing. Not because of the incident, but because the callers say "A plane went into the Hudson, and the dispatcher replies "What city?" I don't care about jurisdiction, but if you are a 911 dispatcher and you don't know where the Hudson is, then you shouldn't be dealing with emergency situations for a living. Regular people don't know the jurisdictions, and the Hudson is a border between two states. The dispatcher should know who to pass the call to. I feel like precious seconds are lost.
Can some of you EMT/Paramedic, Police, etc., people shed some light on this?
(again, not Mel, but Phil)
EMT/Police are very different from 911 operators. 911 operators takes call and send it to the respective agency, but I totally agree with you on the call. I sounded very unprofessional and it really needs to be addressed in such life and death situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellyrose
EMT/Police are dispatched by their dispatchers, who get their jobs from 911 operators. If you ever call in for a fire, the 911 operator will transfer you to the FDNY phone number and they take the jobs from there.
I was out there with Bill and Moose today, great to shot with you guys today! Even though the weather was cr@p (it felt like 10 degrees out) it was worth it.
Here are some shots from today.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3640.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3649.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3650.jpg
I wonder whos camera this is :D
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3658.jpg
Who are these guys? lol jk
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3688.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3699.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_DSC3694.jpg
I'll be back out there tomorrow to hopefully see it above water.
In NYC all 911 calls are answered by CROs (Call Receiving Operators) employed by NYPD and are based in 9 Metrotech in Downtown Brooklyn. They are not Police Officers. The NYPD CRO takes some info then routes you to EMS or Fire if it is a call for them. The FDNY EMS CROs are EMTs or Paramedics and are based in 9 Metrotech as well, the FDNY Fire dispatchers are not Firefighters and are based in each borough. The only reason I can think of for the question about what City the caller is in would be beacuse of cell towers. When I worked EMS in South Brooklyn, a lot of cell calls were routed through Staten Island and vice versa. I once wound up at the Homeport in S.I. and was taken by a Coast Guard boat to a container ship that was actually closer to the Brooklyn side by at least 500 yards for a man having seizures onboard. We passed 2 Staten Island Medic units on the way.......
Weren't some of those 911 calls from NJ? While you might think it's safe to assume the caller is talking about New York City, if you were talking to an operator in NJ, it could be Jersey City, Hoboken, Weehawken, etc.
Damn it was cold today! Good to spend the day with Bill and Pat, but it would have been nice to actually see them pull the plane out of the water. Of course, it could have been worse, it could be raining :wink:
Sorry to correct you NYCMedic but I worked as both a dispatcher and supervisor in the NYC*EMS Communications Division. The NYPD 911 operators are actually called ACD (Automatic Call Distributer). The EMS Operators are CROs and the Fire are called Fire Alarm Dispatchers (usually they rotate between dispatching and call receiving.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCMedic
Remember this was on the Hudson so yes the cell 911 call could have been picked up by a cell site on the New Jersey side and the question was to pinpoint the location on the Hudson. While the East side is Manhattan and the Bronx, the New Jersey side could be Englewood, Fort Lee, Edgewood, Fairview, North Bergen, West New York, Union City, Weehawken, Hoboken, or Jersey City.
My feet are still cold! lol it was good seeing you Moose and nice meeting you Pat, thanks for the coffee.Quote:
Originally Posted by moose135
We're both incorrect...... My friend's wife is an supervisor (Sergeant) at 9 Metro and she said the official "PC" term is Police Communications Technician, and they are cross trained to operate as call receivers,dispatchers, and clerical workers. She wasn't able to answer my other question but I am sure you will know. Where was PD Dispatch prior to Metrotech?Quote:
Originally Posted by emshighway
Remember, I'm an old fart so back in the 80's and early 90's they were ACDs. Guess their union liked PCT better. PD dispatch was previously in 11 MetroTech and before that was One Police Plaza.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCMedic