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Originally Posted by Phil D.
Thank you for joining. However, I find your introductory post to be incredibly rude.
"New Yorkers", as in all of us, did not do this. This isn't a "New Yorker" blaming point. The fault lies not on "New Yorkers", but on management of Aviator Sports, who neglected the aircraft.
If you read a few posts above, or the other news articles that have been out lately, you'd see that the problem is being rectified, and the aircraft is being rstored within the next couple weeks and will be much better protected. Hence, there is no need, and no chance, of it leaving NY anytime soon, to anyplace such as Canada.
Not pointing out you, "Concorde YYZ", but I'm getting tired of all of the media and our international "friends", who seem to continue to say that "Americans" or "New Yorkers" "destroyed" the Concorde. It is racist towards Americans, and extremely unfair, as there are just as many Americans here, as seen on this site, who care immensely about the Concorde and are ready to dedicate as much time necessary to see to it that the prior incidents do not happen again. We New Yorkers and Americans are the very reason it got so much media attention, or was even brought up to begin with. It is incredibly disrespectful and irresponsible for the media of all people to cast blame again "America". the Telegraph is guilty of this with their headline "US leaves Concorde gift from UK to rot in airfield." The fools that I've seen over at Anet, should be ashamed at their comments, and I would love to see these reporters and other people who sit behind their computers say it in front of us on this side of the pond.
If you're going to post like that, do it elsewhere, as your time spent here will be short-lived. You should be THANKING New Yorkers for holding Aviator Sports accountable and pushing hard to solve the problem on the local level, bucko.
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Phil
I agree with what you say but give this guy a 2nd chance, ok he's put his foot in his mouth but i dont think he intended to be so rude.
Welcome Concorde2YYZ.
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I didn't ban him, he's got more than a 2nd chance.
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Originally Posted by Phil D.
Yes, a big hats off to member "G-BOAD" for literally getting it all started. His photos were referenced in the NY Times article and it just continued from there. Excellent work. :)
Thanks Phil; and great editorial!
thanks for using my photo :D
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Phil,
With all due respect that was not my intend to do so, i'm sorry if it came across to you in that manner. We got got slammed like that by Americans when our S Connie left our country and was bought by MOF!, but none of us looked at guys from your end in this way, we tried our best to keep it here but wasn't successful.
Anyhow i'm glad that you guys took upon yourselves to do good for this aircraft, yes it was neglected by few not all and those few are aware whom they are. Other thing is if i was to trash anyone i wouldn't had asked to join your efforts in my original post, this clearly means i'm with you guys to help in rectifying this situation and give this Queen it's elegance and grace back once again that she deserves.
As for trying to bring her to Canada, well that's a lonng shot and it does show that we will accept it if there is a need to be.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by Concorde2YYZ
As for trying to bring her to Canada, well that's a lonng shot and it does show that we will accept it if there is a need to be.
The same could be said in bringing her back home to the UK and placing her near the London Eye but that won't happen....... If she was going to be moved it would (I feel) go to JFK.
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Originally Posted by Concorde2YYZ
Phil,
With all due respect that was not my intend to do so, i'm sorry if it came across to you in that manner. We got got slammed like that by Americans when our S Connie left our country and was bought by MOF!, but none of us looked at guys from your end in this way, we tried our best to keep it here but wasn't successful.
Cheers
Thank you very much. We will keep our international friends posted with updates. :)
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Originally Posted by Phil D.
Funny that I caught this in the Brooklyn edition of the Daily News that a co-worker had. Usually I read the Bronx edition but he is on
vacation.
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I feel bad about the guys over at the Intrepid....This really blind sided them and they sound pissed......or (outraged) and now doing everything they can to fix Concorde now that international focus is upon them. I imagine that the overhal of an AIRCRAFT CARRIER must take up a lot of the small staff's time. Over at the AAM, everyone thinks of the aircrafts around them as "their" responsibity. When Felix was there, I was draining the water after every rainfall (but nobody asked me to and never really understood I was doing it often until later.....It was my responsibility. When I would read the early articles they all looked like they were throwing the blame at the Intrepid. That was until Phil started talking to everyone in the media.
Thanks for all you have been doing to make sure people print articles that really show the true story.
And Mr. White....for being just as red in the face as the rest of us.
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Last Landing shot of her, How I will always remember her!
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/333055277_98W9d-L.jpg
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... n_divx.flv
G-BOAD on her visit to Boston before ending her days in Newyork!
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This Concorde or any Concorde's should never been sent to the US in the first place!
G-BOAD should have been sent to RAF Cosford instead!
If it had been it would not be in the same state it is now.
Think it is time to bring this aircraft back to the UK where it will be looked after!
What's the betting this aircraft ends up at NASA!!!!!!!! :evil:
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Originally Posted by albury
This Concorde or any Concorde's should never been sent to the US in the first place!
G-BOAD should have been sent to RAF Cosford instead!
If it had been it would not be in the same state it is now.
Think it is time to bring this aircraft back to the UK where it will be looked after!
What's the betting this aircraft ends up at NASA!!!!!!!! :evil:
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Come on guys.... LETS REALLY FACE IT. It should go to France so it could get a new paint Job. :borat: They know respect!
(MY ABOVE STATEMENT IS NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, JUST THE SAME SIMPLE MINDED VIEW AS THE ABOVE STATEMENT) I am tired of being put in the same gene pool as a $5.00.hr camp counselor and a disrespectful Sports complex that lied and got out of a contract through a legal loophole. I understand that people want to vent, the simple minded poster only probably seems that way because he did not read the thread but wanted to vent. He probably will never post here again. Just wanted to stir up our ant farm.
Do not let this waver us, he and us have the same goal, preservation of a historic aircraft. His intentions are good, but it seems he needs to read more and try to understand the situation.
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We have a similar gene pool over here in the UK the sooner they get into the Darwin Awards the better.
http://www.darwinawards.com/
To be honest Cosford was a non starter as BA was pulling the funds for the BA museum up there and eventualy that BA museum got the chop.
Also landing at Cosford in a Concorde would have made a rite mess out of the Aircraft and the nere by Rail line and Station as the Runway at RAF Cosford is to Short for a Concorde.
Which is why no operational Concorde ever landed at Cosford they did fly pasts at Airshows but never touched down.
The only Concordes that could have gone to that museum are G-BOAA now at East fortune and G-BBDG now at Brooklands.
G-BOAB is still at LHR and is most likly to remain there for a long time!
:D
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To my friends in America please do not take offence, I'm glad G-BOADs in New York, just not happy with her present condition but i need to answer the following so please forgive me.
Welcome Albury :)
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Originally Posted by albury
This Concorde or any Concorde's should never been sent to the US in the first place!
In Oct - Nov 2003 you and countless others + the UK press should have told BA at the time, you lot should have put huge huge public pressure on BA but none of you lot ever did that............
After my Concorde flight on G-BOAD I tried my very very best to tell the press and public to save Concorde but NO ONE took any notice of me.......... they ignored me like I was dirt......(the press had more respect and took more notice of a useless Big Brother winner.........)
When G-BOAD and her sisters flew off people believed the "official" line by BA and Airbus, the public stood there like sheep and let it happen. But now you lot are moaning about bringing her home and why was she sent to the USA etc etc ......... Well its to late mate........you lot should have moaned a lot stronger about it in Oct 2003.
In the last 10 years merchant bank JP Morgan bought shares in Chase Manhatten Bank and took control, same principle could have been applied to BA.
BA is a public limited company, enough people could have come together bought a 51% stake and stopped Concorde from being grounded or sent abroad. But NO ONE, not even the high powered city high flyers in London and Wallstreet with their £1 million xmas bonuses ever did that........ If they had Concorde could have been saved and still flying now..... but hey instead the tax payer wasted countless millions £ keeping the empty millenium dome "empty" for years.
G-BOAD is in the USA and thats where she'll stay, if Intrepid wont look after her she'll moved else where, but she is never coming back home to the UK.
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G-BOAD should have been sent to RAF Cosford instead! If it had been it would not be in the same state it is now.
Agreed but BA management and Intrepid should have kept closer eye on G-BOAD and not let her rot....... they didnt and G-BOAD got badly hurt.
From what I recently heard at BA's recent AGM the current chairman and CEO have no interest in Concorde....... so work out your own conclusions from this.........
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Think it is time to bring this aircraft back to the UK where it will be looked after!
Dream on........... due to expense this will never happen, she's been in bad condition for years so it would cost countless millions of £s / $s to get her back to airworthy condition and no one not even Bill Gates would do that. I'm also part of Save Concorde Group and on there none of us have thought about G-BOAD for Return To Flight as it would way cost to much.
By ship she could brought home like G-BOAA but again it would cost a huge amount to move her 3500 miles.
Not sure if G-BOAD could fit on to a "small" Royal Navy carrier, you could ask the US Navy to borrow a Nimitz class carrier to ferry G-BOAD home. But in all cases when you got to the UK where could you move G-BOAD from the docks and fully intact ?
BA or the UK government will never spend so much on bringing Concorde home.
My friends here in America (on this forum) are doing their very best to tell the world about G-BOAD, they are doing their very best to save her and to keep an eye on her ...........
So why can't we in the UK give thanks to these guys and help them where we can.....
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What's the betting this aircraft ends up at NASA!!!!!!!! :evil:
Let it...... with their endless money and "rocket scientists" if NASA can get the TU144 back in flight getting G-BOAD would be just as easy and i'd love to see G-BOAD fly.
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Jet
Leave it alone.
Alpha Delta is getting better now that enough of a Search Light has been put on her by every one on this site and the Press who eventualy woke up and got involved.
Going off on one of your holy crusades will only cause more problems for AD than fix them. :!:
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Phil
What is happening to G-BOAD...........
Since I wrote my last post things in the UK press have dried up, there was a mention on breakfast TV about her but that was it ...... have you guys been to see her ?
What state is she in now ?
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We have started our weekly inspections of the Concorde, and have conducted two so far.
Both show the Concorde to be better protected in terms of perimeter fence (no gaps, rails under the nose, etc.) no children playing near it anymore, and different security, this time from the Intrepid as opposed to Aviator guards.
No new damage, and we've yet to see the nosecone repaired as of yet, though the remainder of the radome was removed.
I'll let you know how it all looks once we conduct this week's check.
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Hi Phil
Brilliant news :) :) you have made my day :) :)
A huge pat on the back and a thank you from me to every one from here who's helping out in New York and a thank you to Intrepid from me.
Have you got any photos of how she looks now.
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There are a couple of photos, but they were taken by others. I'll see if those who took them (people on the Concorde team that we assembled) will post them for you. :)
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Doesn't the trucking company that crashed into Concorde's nose have any liability? Aren't they insured? Why should the Intrepid Museum have to foot the whole bill? They are short on funds because the original towing operation from the Hudson pier was unsuccessful and had to be re-done. What happened to the Concorde part that was broken-off? Was it retrieved or was it stolen? Nobody seems to know. Shouldn't Aviator Sports chip-in, too.
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Originally Posted by Phil D.
There are a couple of photos, but they were taken by others. I'll see if those who took them (people on the Concorde team that we assembled) will post them for you. :)
Phil
I look forward to seeing them :)
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Hi wunaladreamin
Thank you I really appreciate you doing this for me :)
She looks a bit better than before (as the rough bits of the nose have been taken off), but there are scratches on the edge of red rear flaps.
I ain't moaning about it, just very glad she's been looked after a bit better now.
I wish will all my heart I could be part of your team (who goes to see her once a week) but living in the UK and 3500 miles from New York I can't do it, by saying this I'm not asking for any sympathy or pitty......but hope you understand I do want to help where I can.
I really appreciate you guys keeping an eye on her and letting us outside the USA see her through your eyes and words :)
Many many thanks to you and keep up the brilliant work :) :)
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I wish will all my heart I could be part of your team (who goes to see her once a week) but living in the UK and 3500 miles from New York I can't do it, by saying this I'm not asking for any sympathy or pitty......but hope you understand I do want to help where I can.
Sure you can - just use Google Maps to check up on her once in a while :wink:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.5 ... 4&t=h&z=19
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Moose, that's an old pic. Her nose is still on!
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WOW, Jetinder,
I have heard your name along side the Concorde for many years now especially about your unique efforts to fly on the Concorde before it was retired.
He's here now on NYCA in the flesh er..text.
Senga
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WOW, Jetinder,
I have heard your name along side the Concorde for many years now especially about your unique efforts to fly on the Concorde before it was retired.
He's here now on NYCA in the flesh er..text.
Senga
Hi Senga
Its good to hear from you and its good to be on here :)
I heard about this forum on the internet and decided to join as you all sound like a great bunch of people :) :)
I do love Concorde.
From age 6 to age 34 3/4 i chased her around Heathrow Airport and took countless photos of her.
On 21 Oct 2003 (thanks to my Concorde friends in the UK and USA) I did fly on her and loved every second of it.:)
When i got home i wrote a huge 500 page trip report about how it all happened and the flight including transcripts between my pilots + Heathrow ATC and as we came in to JFK transcripts between my pilots + JFK ATC.
Although my flight happened 4 1/2 years ago I need to find time to put it all on the internet as I feel Concorde belongs to the world. Before memories fade every one who flew on her or worked on her should put their memories down on paper so people of the future can understand what Concorde really was as Concorde was unique.
By saying the above I'm not trying to upset any one, this topic has been seen over 6000 times and it shows every one loves Concorde :)
In a few years time Richard Branson will be flying people in to short low earth orbit trips. (Similar to Alan Shepard's Mercury-Redstone flights). The people who fly these trips should write down or video their experiences as I would love to hear how they felt for their first time in space.
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By saying the above I'm not trying to upset any one, this topic has been seen over 6000 times and it shows every one loves Concorde :)
I don't think you've upset anyone here Jetinder. I'd like to hear of these unique efforts used to fly on the Concorde, as I'm sure others would. I'd bet it's a helluva story. Anyway, you've been nothing but respectful and concerned, and your posts have truly shown your love of flight and more specifically of the Concorde.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...concordeAD.jpg
G-BOAD when she was just starting her Life as a Super Model.
:mrgreen:
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Hey guys and girls the Encore Mystery Channel (352 on iO Cablevision on L.I.) this Saturday morning at 2AM is showing.............
"The Concorde: Airport '79"
Maybe they were watching this board :lol:
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Jetinder,
I recall reading some of post and longs about the Concorde.
Do you happen to know my friend from Manchester? His name is Jez Homer. Hes a Avid Concorde Buff like yourself. He has spend a lot of time working on repainted some of examples.
Senga
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Jetinder,
I recall reading some of popst and longs about the Concorde.
Hi SengaB :)
I don't know what the above means....... doh
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Do you happen to know my friend from Manchester? His name is Jez Homer. Its a Avid Concorde Buff like yourself. He has spend a lot of time working on repainted some of examples.
Senga
I know Jez Homer he is one of my best friends and is one of the nicest, warmest and most genuine people you'll ever meet :)
In 2003 me and Jez use to chase Concorde around Heathrow, you're right he loves Concorde as much as me, his Concorde videos are great.
I never heard of Jez repainting real Concordes, i guess you mean he spent he lot of time building and re-painting Concorde models (as kids I guess we all did that a lot).
At Manchester Airport their's a guy called Neil Lomax, like Jez he is one of my best friends and he looks after G-BOAC (the Concorde next to the airport).
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Feel free to chat by PM, guys.
