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03-16-2007, 08:52 AM
K9DEP

my friend at United said while he was leaving JFK the captain said that the A380 was coming on Sunday.
03-16-2007, 09:11 AM
T-Bird76

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Originally Posted by K9DEP

my friend at United said while he was leaving JFK the captain said that the A380 was coming on Sunday.

Sounds like a well informed source to me..... :roll: Go post your rumors elsewhere....
03-16-2007, 09:11 AM
Winglets747

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Originally Posted by Nonstop2AUH

Pity there aren't the sort of festivities here as will be at LAX, but NYC is just not an aviation-minded town.

Well LAX *did* throw a sissy fit when the A380 was originally going to come to just JFK, so I guess they can't seem like party poopers. :lol:

(Note: I think LAX had every right to complain, given that Airbus did say LAX would be the first US city to see the A380.)
03-16-2007, 10:20 AM
PhilDernerJr

Quote:

Originally Posted by K9DEP

my friend at United said while he was leaving JFK the captain said that the A380 was coming on Sunday.

He's very wrong. This is a highly publicized event.
03-16-2007, 12:31 PM
Speedbird1

A380 at JFK: March 19 and 20

According to reports, Airbus A380, reg. MSN7, will visit JFK from Frankfurt on March 19 but no time is given. At the same time, sister aircraft MSN1 is due to arrive at LAX. This reminds me of the simultaneous Concorde arrivals for the Concorde years ago. The JFK arrival will then fly on to ORD but will return the following day, March 20, before returning to Frankfurt.
03-16-2007, 12:37 PM
Delta777LR

Any idea which runways the Airbus A380 might come in on? i really want to be there to catch it coming in.
03-16-2007, 12:44 PM
moose135

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Originally Posted by Delta777LR

Any idea which runways the Airbus A380 might come in on? i really want to be there to catch it coming in.

I'll let you know Monday morning :wink:

At this point it's too early to know - depends on what the winds are doing. Right now, all the forecasts are saying is windy with rain and snow showers :cry:

Hey, does the A-380 fit in the big EZ-Bake Oven de-icing shed?
03-16-2007, 01:36 PM
moose135

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Originally Posted by K9DEP

This site is filled with rumors of arriving aircraft everyday. And as regards to my source(s), I probably got know more people in the industry than most of you here. I usually know what I'm talking about.
He's an F/O at United and he emailed me 3 times about it. Maybe it's not coming on Sunday and maybe (due to weather) it wont come on monday.

Sorry, I don't believe that some random F/O at United knows more than the rest of the world when it comes to the A-380 trip to the US.

Let's start with the Associated Press:

http://www.aptn.com/aptn/website_2005/h ... tpBSEvents)/2734725A5894D5878025729F005AD59D?OpenDocument

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Airbus A380 to Make First Touchdown in United States
On 19 March 2007, the United States welcomes the world's largest commercial airliner at two of its largest international airports. The Airbus A380 development aircraft MSN7 will land at John F Kennedy International Airport (JFK), New York as part of a Commercial Route Proving exercise jointly performed with Deutsche Lufthansa.

How about USA Today?

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/ ... -nyc_x.htm

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Airbus jumbo jet to make debut landings in NYC, L.A.
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The U.S. debut of Airbus' new line of super jumbo A380 jets will include landings at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport and Los Angeles International Airport.

On March 19, an A380 will land at Kennedy while another A380 simultaneously lands at Los Angeles, city officials said Wednesday. Specific details of the landing events were not immediately released.

Maybe you prefer NY1 News?

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.js ... &aid=67251

Quote:

Airbus To Make Inaugural U.S. Landing At JFK This Month

JFK won't be the only airport where a new super jumbo jet will make its first touchdown.

Two of Airbus' new A-380 jets will make simultaneous landings at Kennedy and Los Angeles international Airport on March 19th.

Or maybe you trust the press release from Airbus?

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pr ... oving.html

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A380 first touchdown in the United States as part of commercial Route Proving
12 March 2007

Two A380s will fly into two US destinations on 19th March, allowing both the East and West Coasts of North America to simultaneously welcome the world's largest commercial airliner, which is also the most technically advanced and environmentally friendly civil aircraft in the skies.

A380 development aircraft MSN7 will fly some 500 passengers to John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), New York, as part of the Commercial Route Proving jointly performed with Deutsche Lufthansa over a 12 day period. Simultaneously, A380 test aircraft MSN1 will land at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) as part of an airport compatibility trial, which will be performed on the spot with the assistance of Qantas Airways.

I'll ignore the personal attacks in your post - I've promised Phil in the past that I wouldn't reply to them, so I'll give you a pass on that...but you might do well to lighten up a little. There are many people on this board with more experience and connections then you.
03-16-2007, 02:28 PM
jakbar

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Originally Posted by moose135

Right now, all the forecasts are saying is windy with rain and snow showers :cry:

The National Weather Service is still showing mostly sunny, high of 41 for Monday. Its weird how most of the weather sites are showing rain, but the National Weather Service shows it being mostly sunny.

Josh
03-16-2007, 02:43 PM
moose135

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Originally Posted by jakbar

Its weird how most of the weather sites are showing rain, but the National Weather Service shows it being mostly sunny.

Must be those rose-colored glasses the government hands out :wink:
03-16-2007, 03:40 PM
lijk604

Let's remember, we were supposed to have the "end-of-the-world" storm today, as late as the 10pm news last night they were calling for 5-10 inches on snow on the island today. Well, there is maybe 2 inches of snow/sleet outside my house. Unless there is a major change coming I do not see another 3-8 inches coming tonight.
03-16-2007, 03:42 PM
lijk604

Just out of curiosity, if the weather does suck on Monday is anyone up for a day-trip to IAD Sunday the 25th when it's supposed to land there? Seats are still $50 each way on JetBlue...that is, if they can get you there and back in one-day. LOL!
03-16-2007, 04:15 PM
jakbar

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Originally Posted by moose135

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakbar

Its weird how most of the weather sites are showing rain, but the National Weather Service shows it being mostly sunny.

Must be those rose-colored glasses the government hands out :wink:

Those glasses must be defective, because now the National Weather Service is showing chance of rain and snow on Monday. :(
03-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Winglets747

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Originally Posted by lijk604

Just out of curiosity, if the weather does suck on Monday is anyone up for a day-trip to IAD Sunday the 25th when it's supposed to land there? Seats are still $50 each way on JetBlue...that is, if they can get you there and back in one-day. LOL!

Well the A380 is scheduled to arrive at 10PM on the 25th. There's a demo flight at 11AM on the 26th before she departs at 10PM.

-Will
03-16-2007, 08:19 PM
lijk604

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Originally Posted by Winglets747

Quote:

Originally Posted by lijk604

Just out of curiosity, if the weather does suck on Monday is anyone up for a day-trip to IAD Sunday the 25th when it's supposed to land there?

Well the A380 is scheduled to arrive at 10PM on the 25th. There's a demo flight at 11AM on the 26th before she departs at 10PM.

-Will

Oh....well then...that won't work will it.
03-17-2007, 10:14 AM
INTENSS

I'm guessing everyone will be a little happier today when they take a look at the latest forecast for Monday. Rain/crap is out.....current forecast is partly cloudy....let's hope this sticks.

-Rich
03-17-2007, 10:19 AM
pgengler

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Originally Posted by INTENSS

I'm guessing everyone will be a little happier today when they take a look at the latest forecast for Monday. Rain/crap is out.....current forecast is partly cloudy....let's hope this sticks.

-Rich

I'm seeing "chance of showers after 2pm", but it's definitely an improvement from "showers noon-3pm". If the weather promises to be good enough, my girlfriend might come along for it too.
03-18-2007, 05:40 AM
ILS25L

Goodmorning,
So what's the latest on A380's ?
I found on a German website folowing information.
Source : http://www.rmas.de
Translation :

Planned Flighttimes of the A380 :

Saturday 17.3 ETA 11:30 from Toulouse
Sunday 18.3 from 14:30 at Position E5 parked

Monday 19,3 ETD 9:00 to New York
Thursday 22.3 ETA 10:30 from New York

Friday 23.3 ETD 15:30 to Hongkong
Sunday 25.3 ETA 18:00 from Hongkong / to Washington

Tuesday 27.3 ETA 12:00 from Washington.

And if some of you miss that beauty, have a look at this picture but do not pay attention to the figure "45".

http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/displayim ... ?pos=-9017

Greetz, Karl
03-18-2007, 09:35 AM
PhilDernerJr

Guys, let's talk runways.

If they are landing on the 31, will it come on left or right?

If they arelanding on the 4s, either are ok from Bayswater I assume.

If they are landing on the 22s, which one and where to shoot from at noon? Mounds still I assume.
03-18-2007, 10:20 AM
nikon50bigma

I might be heading there after school, but do you guys think it will be worth it? The only way I'd be able to see it would be to take the airtrain around in hopes of seeing her. Do you guys think thats worth it?
03-18-2007, 12:20 PM
Winglets747

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Originally Posted by Phil D.

Guys, let's talk runways.

If they are landing on the 31, will it come on left or right?

If they arelanding on the 4s, either are ok from Bayswater I assume.

If they are landing on the 22s, which one and where to shoot from at noon? Mounds still I assume.

I think our job just got easier.

This FAA memo (http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/ ... /EB_65.pdf) recommends the A380 use runways 200 feet wide. According to this FAA map of JFK (http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0701/00610AD.PDF) 22L/4R is the only 200' wide runway.

Can anyone confirm that info?

I would hope JFK ops and Airbus would take that advice and only consider 22L/4R, but who knows...
03-18-2007, 12:54 PM
Speedbird1

Where Will A380 Park ?

Will she park at Terminal One or at Terminal 4 ? She is due to land tomorrow, March 19 between 12:30 and 13:00 but could be delayed if she must use a specific runway assignment.
03-18-2007, 12:57 PM
moose135

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Originally Posted by Phil D.

If they are landing on the 22s, which one and where to shoot from at noon? Mounds still I assume.

I would be at North Woodmere Park for a 22 arrival early in the day. You probably won't get good sun from the Mounds. I was out there this morning - got some nice shots of a C-17 coming in on 22R.
03-18-2007, 01:17 PM
Winglets747

Re: Where Will A380 Park ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedbird1

Will she park at Terminal One or at Terminal 4 ?

Ron (LGA777) on page 8 said she's parking at gates 1 and 2 at T1.
03-18-2007, 01:18 PM
Speedbird1

LH 8940 : A380

The flight number will be LH 8940. I wasn't aware that only 22L/4R have the needed 200' width. I thought the other runways had also been widened. Regarding the arrival at LAX, it will be operated by Qantas but it's unclear if it's coming from Frankfurt or Sydney.
03-18-2007, 01:51 PM
Winglets747

Re: LH 8940 : A380

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Originally Posted by Speedbird1

The flight number will be LH 8940.

Thanks!

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Regarding the arrival at LAX, it will be operated by Qantas but it's unclear if it's coming from Frankfurt or Sydney.

Toulouse

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So at 9:30 a.m., one of two inaugural U.S. test flights is scheduled to touch down at LAX from Toulouse, about the same time a second aircraft will land at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport from Frankfurt, Germany.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/cus ... ines-space
03-18-2007, 01:56 PM
lijk604

22L works for me. Less hassle at North Woodmere Park anyway.
The thing that will suck is that if we are at N. Woodmere, and they decide to send him to 31L or 31R we're sunk. I'll check back later today to see where the crew plans on being.

Just checked NOAA for JFK Terminal Forecast
KJFK 181851Z 29019KT 10SM FEW050 SCT180 03/M11 A2994 RMK AO2 PK WND 29029/1839 SLP139 T00281111

KJFK 181730Z 181818 27018G28KT P6SM SCT050
FM0300 28012KT P6SM SKC
FM1500 24009KT P6SM SCT050

Winds 240 @ 9 kts...although 9 knots is nothing too significant, it would be nice for the aircraft to have a basic headwind. :) Maybe 22L will happen.
03-18-2007, 02:19 PM
nwafan20

I can tell you all are geeked for this! Do me a favor and take a pic to show how many people are there waiting for it to arrive.
03-18-2007, 02:21 PM
lijk604

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Originally Posted by nwafan20

I can tell you all are geeked for this! Do me a favor and take a pic to show how many people are there waiting for it to arrive.

I think that can be arranged.
03-18-2007, 03:25 PM
SengaB

Matt,
You are not coming for the A380?

Senga
03-18-2007, 03:59 PM
nwafan20

Senga, I live in Michigan, I have school, so nope!
03-18-2007, 04:52 PM
stuart schechter

Anyone coming from NYC that could possibly do a pick-up somewhere at a subway station?
03-18-2007, 06:01 PM
SengaB

Whoops sorry about that. I forgot about thta little bit of information about Michigan.
Maybe it will make a tech stop off at GRR?
Senga
03-18-2007, 06:05 PM
Chris102

Does anyone know the A380's flight path for tomorrow? More specifically, will it be flying over Northeastern Pennsylvania? I'd love to go to NYC tomorrow to see it, but I can't because of school :cry:
03-18-2007, 06:08 PM
h2opunk1822

where do you go to school??.. one of my boys goes to school in michigan and flys into GRR??
03-18-2007, 06:10 PM
moose135

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Originally Posted by nwafan20

Senga, I live in Michigan, I have school, so nope!

Sounds like a pretty lame excuse to me :D
03-18-2007, 06:30 PM
Winglets747

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Originally Posted by Chris102

Does anyone know the A380's flight path for tomorrow? More specifically, will it be flying over Northeastern Pennsylvania?

I think you're out of luck on that one.

Most European arrivals come down the eastern seaboard and cross Long Island or do a straight approach into JFK. No PA. Sorry! :(
03-18-2007, 06:40 PM
PhilDernerJr

Re: Where Will A380 Park ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedbird1

Will she park at Terminal One or at Terminal 4 ? She is due to land tomorrow, March 19 between 12:30 and 13:00 but could be delayed if she must use a specific runway assignment.

I understand that the aircraft will stop at T1, but during one of its overnight stays, it will be at a T4 hardstand.

Sorry to start a rumor, but it's what I heard.
03-18-2007, 06:54 PM
pinktristar

Do we know which runway is favourite for tomorrow?

Hi folks,

On my way down from Rhode Island to catch this historic event!

Anyone know which runway is the most likely to be used? Which viewing point I should make my way to for the better photos?

Geoff
03-18-2007, 06:56 PM
pinktristar

NE PA

Quote:

Does anyone know the A380's flight path for tomorrow? More specifically, will it be flying over Northeastern Pennsylvania? :

On Tuesday the A380 is supposed to fly to Chicago! Quite possibly it may fly over your area enroute to/from ORD!!

Hope that helps!

Geoff

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