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I just noticed that the site schedule shows that "The Horsemen" 3 ship P-51 Mustang team was dropped?! They now list a single P-51 Demo. I think now I may reconsider going. Because of the cost and light show itinerary it doesn't appear worth it. Hopefully next year Jones Beach will get a Raptor and Super Bug. I just saw a Harrier at Geneseo.
Flying schedule released
Wednesday, September 2, 2015 – 11:30 AM:
- 11:35 AM – Airshow Tow Banner Flybys
- 11:37 AM – Jim Beasley III – L4 Flyby
- 11:40 AM – Jim Beasley Jr. – SNJ Texan Aerobatics
- 11:50 AM – US Army Golden Knights – Flag Jump w/National Anthem
- 11:58 AM – US Army Golden Knights – Mass Exit Show
- 12:06 PM – Andrew Wright – Giles 202 Aerobatics
- 12:21 PM – Jack Kelly – Bell 47D1 Helicopter Flybys
- 12:22 PM – AtlantiCare – Medical Helicopter Flybys
- 12:23 PM – MidAtlantic – MedEvac Helicopter Flybys
- 12:26 PM – Chopper 6 (WPVI – Channel 6 ABC)
- 12:28 PM – NJ Army National Guard – UH-60 Flyby & Combat Insertion Demonstration
- 12:39 PM – Raiders Aerobatic Demonstration Team
- 12:54 PM – Jim Beasley – P-51D Mustang Demonstration
- 1:02 PM – US Air Force – F-22 Raptor Demonstration
- 1:17 PM – US Air Force – Heritage Flight (F-22 & P-51)
- 1:27 PM – GEICO Skytypers
- 1:42 PM – GEICO Skytypers vs. Miss GEICO Speedboat Race
- 1:47 PM – Mike Wiskus – LUCAS Oil Pitts Aerobatics & Skydivers
- 2:06 PM – Andrew Wright – Giles 202 World Record Attempt – Inverted Flat Spins
- 2:16 PM – US Coast Guard Search & Rescue Demonstration
- 2:31 PM – US Army Golden Knights – Mass Exit Show
- 3:00 PM – US Navy Blue Angels – C-130T Hercules
- 3:10 PM – US Navy Blue Angels
While I didn't hear anything official today, rumor has it that there is a health issue involving one of the pilots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ch2tdriver
The other news that was shared with us today is that this will be an annual show. They're already planning for next year, and will be at ICAS this winter to try to secure a jet team.
Well, the Blue Angels were already scheduled to be at Coney Island August 20 -21st next year,Quote:
Originally Posted by Landing Lights
so as long as Stewart keeps the same date I would think they should be able to get the Blue Angels.
Anybody at Stewart airport can you confirm if a plane went down. Seen something on FB chatter
IMed a friend he said something about it is a small prop stunt plane and the tail wing came off and the plane did crash it is on local news. I'm unable to put up link. http://nycaviation.com/forum/A685303...otes.apple.com
ABC NY confirming plane crashed, pilot killed. Practice cancelled but they are planning to have the show go on tomorrow and SundayQuote:
Originally Posted by Innes
http://abc7ny.com/news/plane-practic...-pilot/960733/ Photos show structural failure. They report that the plane came down in the trees behind the crowd line.
Those photos showing structural failure are mine. I was there yesterday and today covering the process of putting the show together for a future article here. I don't have time to write much right now, but suffice to say it was a stunning experience top watch firsthand.
Well that explains why they initially forbid us from taking photos of one side of the Apache when they brought us over to it just after arrival.Quote:
Originally Posted by fk6065
Reports are traffic is backed up from the entrance of the airport all the way up 787 to Route 84.
As anticipated they are pausing the show for commercial arrives at the airport
Anybody do preferred parking if so do they let you go back and forth to your car.
I didn't do preferred parking, I did prepaid general parking. And while it took a lot longer to get in than the preferred parkers leaving was easy and fast as we drove by the preferred lot that was backed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Innes
Also once your through the gates your in, there is no re admission including preferred parking.
You go through a long wait at security and then another wait at the next entrance where they scan your ticket.
No no food or water of any kind allowed.
Be be prepared for extremely long wait lines, 30 to 60 minutes at least to get food & water.
Also so you can only get food on the food line.
And you you can only get drinks on the drink line.
A few people mentioned to me that they began allowing in sealed water bottles at some point, so anyone going tomorrow can take the chance if they want. I also agree that the food and drink situation could have been managed better. Also, the photo pit was kind of useless. There were plenty of places along the general admission fence with shots that were just as good. It was nice though not needing to get there early and to have a spot to go back to after taking food breaks and such. Given the circumstances of the Horsemen not performing and the unfortunate death on Friday the show was understandably a bit short, but it was still really fun. I'm really interested to see what they can bring in next year.
Anyone going tomorrow you will want to bring a 500mm for the reach for some of the performers. 400mm on my D3 didn't cut it on some acts. Lighting isn't bad at all.
As for the flying portion of the show the performers were great, but some, like the L-39, and the SAR demo from the 106th were out just a little to far. There were a few long pauses, about 20 minutes for commercial flights, runway sweep, and just down time because they didn't have enough performers to fill the schedule. But overall the three main performers did not disappoint.
What was really annoying was the amount of airport vehicles riding back and forth on the fence line all day long.
Sequence of flight today was;
- West Point flag jump
- Lucas Oil teaser
- L-39
- B-25
- Harrier
- 106th NYANG Pavehawk SAR Demo
- Geico Skytypers
- Lucas Oil full demo
- SuperHornet
- West Point mass jump
- Raptor
- USAF Heritage flight F-22 & P-51
I think the show has a lot of potential but really needs to be run much better from a logistics stand point.
this food line situation is real bothersome bringing wife and 3 kids from long island trying to make a family day. my wife prepaid for the preferred parking hoping we would have a cooler option at the car for her and my 2 daughters. 30-60 mins for a bottle of water for me and my son to miss the show not to dehydrate is even crazy. what are they thinking
Aside from the logistics on the organizers part, lets get to some flying
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They are thinking about making $$$$$$. I believe in retrospect after this is all over they will get together, have meetings and debrief and figure out how to make it better and more comfortable for the crowds for next year!! Not sure who the promoter is but this is a first for this location in a long time so naturally bugs need to be worked out!! But if they do this again next year and they get a aerobatic team like the Angels they can sure anticipate even larger crowds!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Innes
Overall, a good show on Sunday. The clouds were slightly problematic, but I'm glad I paid for the Photo Pit tickets. Impressive demo by the F-22 and F-18. I can't believe how loud that Harrier is!
I didn't eat or drink anything (brought my own water) so I can't comment on the lines, but security was easy and getting to the show wasn't a problem at all. None of the roads were backed up anywhere, and I arrived around 11:15.
However, leaving the show was a complete and utter disaster. I left immediately following the F-22 demo to try and beat the bulk crowd. I beat many people and was at my car (in preferred parking) at 3:20. I got back onto International, the road leaving SWF, at 5:05PM. I waited almost two hours in basically stand-still traffic, to the point where people were standing outside their cars or urinating on the taxiway and perimeter road because they'd been there so long. This really, really needs to be addressed for next year - my friend who was NOT in preferred parking said it took him about 20 minutes to leave the airport. The perimeter road has another exit on Rt 747 to the West of the airport, and I don't understand why they didn't open this up for those leaving. What a mess.
I'm shocked you had such an issue, Antonis. I stuck around until just after 4 and got right out from the media lot, which was a bit closer to the exit from the preferred and VIP lots. A better alternative exit would be to bring traffic from those lots out by the cargo ramp. That road leads to an entirely separate onramp to I-84 and doesn't include the steep hill and tight turns of the runway end road. Here's a map of what I'm thinking.
The issues I had leaving were the massive number of people trying to get over the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge and the backup caused by the toll plaza. It was bumper to bumper traffic from about half a mile after I got onto 84. I ended up taking back roads through Newburgh to avoid the traffic. Not much the show organizers can do about that though.
Once I got out of the airport, I made a left on 747 and drove south on 208 -> Rt 6 -> Rt 17 -> I-87. Saved me quite a lot of time avoiding I-84 and I-287.
But yeah, getting out of SWF was a complete nightmare.
How is the Pier? It's free for practice day, but I want to go in the water so badly. Which one is better?
I tried the end of the pier last year for the TBirds and the only reason it wasnt crowded was because it started to rain!! The TBirds only flew for a little bit before calling it a day!! But Id rather be on the beach out in the open with the sun shining on me!!:cool: For me you get better visuals especially with the Angels who zoom all about!! I'll be on the north side of the Pier a ways down!! Thats where I 've been the last few years and really enjoy it AND I get to dip my foots in the water LOL!! BTW I heard the Pier is under new Mgt so its possible it won't be free tomorrow!! Some people have been speculating on FB but nothing definite yet!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TriStatePlaneSpotting
Updated flying schedule
11:50 AM – Airshow Tow Banner Flybys
11:55 AM – Jim Beasley III – J3 Cub Flyby
12:05 PM – LUCAS Oil Skydivers Flag Jump with National Anthem by Lee Greenwood
12:10 PM – Mike Wiskus – LUCAS Oil Pitts Aerobatic Teaser
12:17 PM – GEICO Skytypers – Tribute Pass
12:21 PM – Jim Beasley Jr. – SNJ Texan Aerobatics
12:31 PM – Jack Kelly – Bell 47D1 Helicopter Flybys
12:33 PM – AtlantiCare – Medical Helicopter Flybys
12:35 PM – MidAtlantic – MedEvac Helicopter Flybys
12:37 PM – Chopper 6 (WPVI – Channel 6 ABC)
12:39 PM – New Jersey State Police Aviation Unit
12:41 PM – Raiders Aerobatic Demonstration Team
12:57 PM – Jim Beasley – P-51D Mustang Demonstration
1:07 PM – US Air Force – F-22 Raptor Demonstration
1:21 PM – US Air Force – Heritage Flight (F-22 & P-51)
1:31 PM – GEICO Skytypers
1:46 PM – GEICO Skytypers vs. Miss GEICO Speedboat Race
1:53 PM – Matt Chapman Embry Riddle CAP580 Aerobatics
2:08 PM – US Coast Guard Search & Rescue Demonstration
2:23 PM – Mike Wiskus – LUCAS Oil Pitts Aerobatics & Skydivers
2:45 PM – US Navy Blue Angels – C-130T Hercules
3:00 PM – US Navy Blue Angels
We're there 2 Raptors flying today? Was coming down the AC Expressway and saw two jets flying!! Angels came on exactly at 3 but you could tell this was pretty much a practice for them but still enjoyed it!! It was pretty hazy out there and with the use of smoke and pretty much no wind the smoke hung around sometimes obscuring the aircraft!! Thought it was over but Fat Albert came in and did a number of nice climbing and high speed flybys!! That was cool!!
It will be hot again tomorrow so dress accordingly and have water and sunscreen!!
FYI - This is what flew during the practice show today over the beach and approximate times:
11:25 - P-51 Demo
11:35 - F-22 Raptor Demo (1 - ship)
11:50 - P-51 & F-22 Heritage Flight
12:10 - Blue Angels Diamond ( Circles & Arrival)
1:00 - Blue Angels ( 6 -ship) and Geico Skytypers together for a Air to Air photo op further south of show center
1:15 - Blue Solos ( Circles & Arrivals )
2:00 - Raiders Demo
2:20 - GEICO Skytypers Demo
2:40 - Lucas Oil Jumpers circled by Mike Wiskus and then he practiced his full aerobatic demo also
3:00 - Blue Angels ( 6-ship) Practice Demo
3:40 - Blue Angels C-130 Fat Albert Demo
Thanks Chris!! Got to the beach right before the Raiders started their demo!! Gotta say the Angels flew pretty low around the buildings!! Haha I wasn't complaining!!
BTW tons of vapor today with the Angels!! Even Fat Albert pulled vapor lol
Curious, I wonder if anyone walked over to the show? There are a number of hotels in walking distance and that would have been a great option!! Save $$$ on parking also!!
A few of my favorites from Sunday:
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Thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Innes
Good show as always, kept right on time with the schedule they posted.
No surprise aircraft as hinted at.
USCG Demo only brought in two ships and they went way to the right of show center.
Lighting was absolutely horrible, beyond description. Between the haze, the smoke, humidity and lack of a strong breeze it was brutal. Be lucky to find 10 keepers. Put the camera away for most of the show and just watched and enjoyed it.
Fat Albert crew tore the beach up.....................
Crowded but not the sea of humanity like other years. Got there at 11:45am, parked, was on the beach at noon, and from the time I got back to the car till I was out of the city was under 10 minutes.
Pretty much on point with everything you wrote!! The Angels were magnificent and from where I was standing, to north of the Pier just about in the middle on the shoreline the Angels flew over my head a number of times heading back over the city and somewhat low!! Have to say that was quite cool!! And yeah Fat Albert was amazing!! They hinted at it during the practice run but yesterday was wild! That one flyby when they came from the back and fast it looked like they flew between two hotels!!! And it was so hot they even pulled vapor! LOL!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fk6065
Enjoyed the Raptor!! Boy it could be incredibly LOUD and quiet!! Very enjoyable along with their Heritage Flight!!
For the USCG they always bring in two Dolphins but they would do the SAR demo closer to the Pier!! From my vantage point if I didnt have binoculars I wouldnt have seen much and I thought they would come around for a FlyBy after but they just headed out to sea!!
Yes it was HOT!!! Knowing the schedule I left the beach during two of the acts and found shade behind the Boardwalk in a park by Ballys!! I have my Canon PowerShot which gets me what I want but found it very hard to shoot with yesterday so didnt use that much!! Actually got better pics with my iPhone 6 and took a bunch of video with it!!
I stayed at Ballys in the Tower and had a great view of the beach and city to the north and there were lots of parking available even from the time I headed down at 11:50 and the Boardwalk didnt seem as crowded in the past!! I guess the later date and school open impacted the attendance! And too bad there was no live music!! Last year they had concerts on the beach by the Pier!! Charlie Daniels Monday, Tues cancelled due to rain and Wed right after the show Felix Cavaliere and the Rascals which was fantastic!
Good way to end the summer!!
Fat Albert during Thunder Practice
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Am I the only one seeing the NYC air show threads mixed in this AC thread?
Yeah, I see the two Air Show threads were merged together for some reason:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
I think they were trying to merge the "Coney Island" thread with the newly started "NY Air Show" Thread and misfired .......................