http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/...0fdb4efd_b.jpg
What do you think?
Doug
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/...0fdb4efd_b.jpg
What do you think?
Doug
Looks good, Doug. It might need just a tad more sharpening, and maybe a little less brightness.
I was going through some old photos and Photoshopped some of them, potentially to upload. Any thoughts on these?
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/Chris102/6jr.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/ ... 2/44mq.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/ ... airbus.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/Chris102/bhc.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/Chris102/fgs.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/ ... etstar.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/ ... mccain.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/ ... yanair.jpg
First attempts at JPnet in quite some time. I'd love some advice!
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u..._10_5909-1.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...23_10_5921.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...23_10_5895.jpg
The Emirates is oversharpened.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/...e280bd4164.jpg
ElCentro4_Jbong by JasonKPHX, on Flickr
Your thoughts would be great. Thought it might be to high in the frame. Oh and the good pic will not have the watermark.
Just Curious if any of these would "Fly"
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/AirChinaCargo747.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/CathayJFK.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/Emerites2.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/SouthAfricaJFK.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/Evergreen.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/JAL.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/KoreanAir.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/DL747JFK.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/AALGA.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/AALGA2.jpg
http://www.samdrivers.com/images/DLLGA.jpg
best.
Sam
Matt I think yours would stand a good chance of making it.
Sam, looking ok but needing a little work. Anything that has the tail cut off and what not will most definetly get rejected. Mind sharing what you shoot with and what editing you fo to your shots?
Using a D700 with a Nikon 70-200mm VR lens, shooting RAW, import using bridge (to replace metadata) then edit in photoshop, usually take the exposure up just a touch, lower the black up the clarity by two or three digits and then sharpen the edges and save. to upload them to here i downsized them to 100dpi and lowered there size..
@SDRivers very nice images, some will likely get accepted ... I say CROPPING is a HUGE important point. They love tight crops and neat crops and centering is very important to the screeners. Color Balance is also important as is contrast. They don;t mind the belly/landing gear being totally black.
It took me 5 tries but I finally made it in :-)
@JBong That image is sweet. I'd say to make a stronger case, make sre it is CENTERED top to bottom. If you "can't" because there is no room in the image, get as close as you can. They are really strict about centering... well at least from recent experience. :-)
@SDRivers- I highly doubt any of them will make it. Your images are very soft, uncentered, and could use a touch more contrast. Take a glace at this:
http://www.airliners.net/faq/rejection_reasons.php
Good luck!
@JBong- Looks great from my eye.
I think that the Cathay and JAL ones would stand achance with a little more sharpening. The big thing though is just clarity, alot of the shots have a little blur/not locked on great. Do you use auto metering/focus or do you have it manually set in your camera?
Yeah its all set to auto when I shoot, I have stigmatism so I rely on the auto-focus to pull focus.. funny thing, when I print these (using a durst theta 76) they print clear and crisp.
@gonzalu I have a hard time with blacks being totally black, as I like having the detail in the shadows...
That's to be expected during Full Sunlight and harsh top/down light. There can be lots of exposure variation from the top of the airframe to the bottom of the wheels in shadow. I tested this on a Swiss Air A340 the other day at Panera and the very top edge was 5 stops over the bottom of the wheel undercarriage... 15 stops!! The top of the white plane was I believe EV +15 and the wheels at EV -2 or -6 I can;t remember now... but that is about 15 stops of range. Well, our digital cameras don't handle that as well as film. My D3 has the best dynamic range of any of my digital cameras with about 8-10 maybe 11 from a 14bit RAW file. If I expose for the top of the white frame to not blow it, parts of the wheels will NOT GET any data recorded. Meanijng BLACK PIXELS. NO WAY to recover them. Our hobby is that tough. All we can hope for is to get a nice low flying shot over a CONCRETE runway to get natural reflection on the belly (or similar condittions) Over water = black. Over grass = black etc. etc. Now lots of more variables can help this or not.
Always remember the formula that on a digital file, data is split in chunks given to the various components and shadow data gets the LEAST on the left while each successive shade of gray gets double the previous one. You've heard of exposing to the right?
http://apture.s3.amazonaws.com/00000...OTO%282%29.JPG
Well, if you see the above, the camera will actually store close to nothing for the shadows and you can't get a lot of data there to BEGIN with cause your sensor's latitude may be only a few stops.
I usually like to BLOW the very top edge of the plane if it is while and I am shooting from a low angle. This top edge can easily be pure white and the picture will still work. This gives me a bit more data in the shadows to INCREASE the exposure there in POST a little bit without too much noise/overdoign it for at least some detail... just some is needed.
Also keep in mind your camera may use the JPG in camera to show you the HIGHLIGHT BLINKIES or whatever you call them on your camera. This is typically worng because the JPG does not have as much latitude as the 14 bit raw file. I usually go .3 to 1 stop over this first blinkie as I know my file still has data in that highlight. For backlit shots I heavily overdo the blown skies...
OK now to your dark bellies. It is up to you to add some FILL LIGHT (LIGHTROOM) or HIGHLIGHT CONTRAST (PHOTOSHOP) but I would NOT overdo it. This has a negative effect. The human brain sees hard sunlight and shadows and EXPECTS dark darks and light lights! :cool:
If ytou like this discussion to go further we can enhance it with examples. But then we should move it to the Photography forum!
Your thought would be AWESOME.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/...a713b9d7_z.jpg
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JasonKPHX, on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5245/...5591ef8f_z.jpg
445 by JasonKPHX, on Flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/...778894e2_z.jpg
N1115_JBong by JasonKPHX, on Flickr
Jason,
All three have a great chance I think... however the USAir, I would put the nose right up against the right hand frame. Also should make sure the wheel is either fully shown or only the nose shows :-)
Hey guys;
Any chance for this one? Abysmal conditions, but it was nice to get the double Sun Country.
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Other/pot...5_FgEQk-X2.jpg
Really great chance... I would give it a bit more contrast perhaps.
http://manny.smugmug.com/photos/1147234678_ScxFG-O.jpg
Hey guys, sitting at home watching the snow fall and was wondering about this one.
Any chance for a "ramp" shot? I have of image to play with in terms of cropping, etc.
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Airplanes...3_xpSDt-XL.jpg
Jermey in my opinion a tighter crop of the two aircraft and having them in the center of the frame might help as well as other adjustments are needed. My concern about the image is that both planes are placed in the lower 3rd of the frame, so therefore, I think you'll have a rough time centering the planes in the frame.
Hi Mark;Quote:
Originally Posted by Zee71
I agree with your comment. I thought I had more image to play with. After a bit of playing with it and a PhotoShop crash (lost all my actions :mad: ) here it what I have. I guess it is another one for the personal collection.
http://jeremyd.smugmug.com/Airplanes...3_VcFxv-X2.jpg
Here are my takes:
http://horriblephotography.com/albums/Misc/jd1.jpg
http://horriblephotography.com/albums/Misc/jd2.jpg
Any chance we could get the originals in full res? Or you could PM me them; I think both have potential. I especially like the skyline as the ramp backdrop.
I'm about to upload this one... Any comments and suggestions? Or is it destined to be a fail?
http://piczasso.com/i/tsgzk.jpg
Never thought SCX would touch the 700s but great shot getting both 700 and 800 in same frame!
Rom,Quote:
Originally Posted by RomNYC
Looks great to me... maybe a tad contrasty for my taste, but that is only an opinion, not a fault. It would likely make it as is ;-)
The sky has a bit of pronounced grain ... maybe due to sharpening? Do you mask your sharpening at all?
Thanks Manny. Yes it does have some grain... if only I knew what "masking my sharpening" meant! I know I only sharpened the aircraft, not the sky. Any way I can get rid of it?
Here's a new attempt.
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1425/dsc01372r.jpg
I think it looks much better in this version... again, it is just [my] preference, so you really should select [your] favorite :cool:
By masking I mean do you isolate the areas to sharpen with a LAYER MASK in Photoshop... let me know if you know about layer masks or not and we'll take it from there. If you;re processing from RAW, the RAW developers in Photoshop and Lightroom have built in masking controls with visual feedback which are far easier than doing layer masks in the main interface. For final sharpening I use USM and [it] has a built in masking mechanism to isolate large swaths and concentrate the effect on just the contrast edge boundaries. I've been working on a video to show some of the few tricks and tips I use to post process my aviation images.
Thanks for the edits Mark. PM sent on the fullsize images.Quote:
Originally Posted by heeshung
Nik, thanks for the props, I guess that is about the only advantage to being at MSP, besides 93.7% Delta. Can you explain why SCX would not be interested in the 700?Quote:
Originally Posted by NIKV69
I think it's a fantastic shot no matter what!
I would go for the first one, but others prefer less contrast! I don't see why any of those two wouldn't make it, but I am no expert :)
What about this? The 747-8 shots and this Wedgetail are re-edits from shots I just had rejected.
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...edgetail-1.jpg
*edit*
Don't know why it looks terrible on here. Here's a direct link to it on my photobucket.
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...wedgetailb.jpg
Nathan those are incredible! You may run into trouble with the mains being chopped but the right crop would def get in! The runway light blocking the tires too could be an issue.
Yeah, I played with that series of shots with the crop to try to balance it. Unfortunately, my favorite shot (the 1st one) was a bit crooked and I had to lose almost half of the main gear to keep it somewhat centered after rotating.
Tough one Nathan. Maybe zoom out a little and include the whole gear? Then you would have to clone out the light :D I also see some heat distortion.
You mean the area over the wings that has a bit of heat haze? How about now with a little cloning tool touch up?
Also killed some more noise around the lights and under the nose. Really couln't save the main gear, so I tried to balance it by cutting both gear in half and keeping the lights close to the same distance from the edge of the photo. Makes the nose off center now though.
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_8461e.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_8461e.jpg
Some on the corners and bottom gear maybe. Not on my good monitor but it looks funky. As for cloning remember you can't upload. Only dust spots.
Hey, always looking for new tips for editing, and I would like to take up the offer from Manny about layer masks for sharpening. Thanks
Matt
@Nathan, that image is just rocking!!!! Keep it going. Let me know if you want me to help you with the cloning... I am always looking for practice :-)
@Matt, send me an E-mail and we'll get you going