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wrong...last year the Blues were at Farmingdale and the Year before Thunderbird were at farmingdale
Here is a pic I took :borat:
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/...32_ZG8tM-L.jpg
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._AyhKp-L-1.jpg
2005 they were at JFK Only because of the long runway, two years ago they had an arrestor system
installed which allowed them to go to Farmingdale
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._dnkjF-L-1.jpg
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._Rggi6-L-1.jpg
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then what year were the birds at JFK...
I can't be that crazy....
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then what year were the birds at JFK...
I can't be that crazy....
2005 they were at JFK and no, I do not think you are crazy, and
I would know....crazy is my middle name :wink: :D
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Woohoo Thunderbirds this year...
and they always park at JFK...score!
I need to remember to take Friday off...and catch the practice..
No, they park at KFRG.
No last year the blues parked at FRG, year before birds were at JFK...
got pics of the birds near the tank farm...
They were at KFRG I was there, I think they went to JFK the first year.
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Generally the Thunderbirds transit to their next show on Tuesday (the week of the show) and do media flights on Wednesday. They will then practice two times on Thursday once in the AM and once in the PM. They will not fly on the Friday before the show. Again this is from past experience and information from the Thunderbirds. This is generally the schedule they follow.
In 2005 the Thunderbirds did indeed stay at JFK. In 2007 they stayed at Republic and followed the above schedule. They arrived Tuesday 5/22. They flew 2 practices on Thursday 5/24 at Jones Beach with the Bones arrival and practice mixed in between. Then the A-10 made a surprise fly by. They took Friday off while all the rest of the performers did a full show practice.
As for the Blue Angles they usually follow this schedule. The # 7 plane comes in on the Wednesday before the show. The team transits in to the show site on Thursday along with Fat Albert. They then practice Thursday and Friday with media flights mixed in along the way.
This is what they did last year. They, The Blues, came in Thursday morning in the rain and the afternoon practice wasn't a sure thing due to weather. But the skies cleared and the Blues ran their Demo practice Thursday afternoon. They also participated in the full show practice on Friday.
The team also flew over Commander Mannix's old grammar school in Lindenhurst but I forget which day.
Now this is all from past experience and things may change this year.
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Very nice summary....spot on! :borat:
Edit for picture....This thread needs more pictures
I should date these.....5-24-2007
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._jstRd-L-1.jpg
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Outstanding! Yes you are right it needs more pictures. I'd love to have your access to the field. With that kind of access and your fantastic photographic ability it is always a pleasure to look at your shots.
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I got him slamming into the runway hard!
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._MqtQB-L-1.jpg
I loved the guy waking towards the plane feeling around his pockets going
where are my keys???
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/..._gGaRm-L-1.jpg
and then there is his skid marks from the hard landing that destroyed some of the
Thunderbirds equipment! Look Close....I never new the mains have 3 rows of tires
until I edited this pic
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/...ybJpm-X3-1.jpg
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The F-86 shot is wonderful! Great angle.
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nice shot of the Major fred.
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That was not mine!!! The first one in the aircraft was her, and that was mine.
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Nice shots guys.
Fred it looks like that 80-400VR is working pretty well for ya!
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Nice shots guys.
Fred it looks like that 80-400VR is working pretty well for ya!
How dare you! Fred shoots Canon. :wink:
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Wrong Fred, he was refering to me fk6065, the much less talented Nikon shooter who happens to share the same first name.
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HEY!!!! NEVER TALK DOWN ABOUT A FRED! :borat:
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who did the two C-130 belong to? Its hard to keep track.
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They look like they're from the Rhode Island ANG.
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They look like they're from the Rhode Island ANG.
Yes, in 2007, they were from the RI ANG:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/1..._bFUzn-L-2.jpg
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Rejected - Parts of Aircraft Cut Off
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J-Model! The only "cool" C-130 out there (besides the WC's of course)
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nice shot of the Major fred.
Too bad that pointy nose airplane brings down her "coolness" factor so much....
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I wonder if the 'Birds will be flying their Block 52 Vipers this season. And in regards to the " cool " Hercs ", what about the AC's.. I walked to my b-hut many a night listening to them firing over the range. It was unmistakable!
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Yes they are, and they have made some changes to the show to use that extra thrust. From the Air Force Times
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NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. — Get ready for the Thunderbirds to pull out all the stops this year with never-done-before maneuvers guaranteed to be make crowds “ohh” and “ahh” even more.
The Thunderbirds — the U.S. Air Force Air Demonstration Squadron is the team’s official name — have newer, more powerful Block 52 F-16s, letting them add a loop on takeoff and spice up their solo acts. A show March 21 at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., starts the squadron’s 2009 season, described by the commander and lead pilot as the freshest since the early 1980s.
“Our show has been fairly stagnant for quite a few years,” Lt. Col. Greg “Charger” Thomas said. “The new aircraft that we’re flying this year are going to bring a new look to the Thunderbirds.”
The 11 Block 52 F-16s — the same flown by most of the operational Air Force — replace Block 32s and come from Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho. Their average age: 15 years.
A Block 52 has updated digital avionics, sturdier landing gear and the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engine, which nets about 2,000 pounds more thrust than the nearly 24,000 pounds offered by the Block 32’s P&W F100-PW220.
The extra engine power allows the Thunderbirds to do their most high-profile new maneuver, a four aircraft, diamond-formation loop immediately out of takeoff.
A loop on takeoff “has never been done before on the Thunderbirds,” Thomas said. Because the planes fly at a slower speed on takeoff, the pilots need the additional thrust to start the loop. Once in the loop, though, the pilots finish the stunt much as they do the other loops in the show. “It’s very, very natural and very, very comfortable,” he said.
For much of the show, two solo pilots fly separate from the diamond — and they, too, have new maneuvers. Some of the solo maneuvers will be replaced by more spectacular opposing maneuvers in which the two solo aircraft fly at each other on an apparent collision course before narrowly missing.
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And in regards to the " cool " Hercs ", what about the AC's.. I walked to my b-hut many a night listening to them firing over the range. It was unmistakable!
Yea I guess ACs are pretty cool too.... ;)
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Cool, a new T-Bird demo! Can't wait.. :borat:
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Wow great set!
Where were you when you took that first photo of all the T-birds on final?
By the Dave and Buster's?
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For the first shot I was opposite the patio store on Route 110 on my 6ft ladder for a clear view over the fence. I try to move around the airport during the day to get the best light and usually shot from about 10 locations during Memorial Day Weekend.
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For the first shot I was opposite the patio store on Route 110 on my 6ft ladder for a clear view over the fence. I try to move around the airport during the day to get the best light and usually shot from about 10 locations during Memorial Day Weekend.
Wait I think Ive seen you before, do you usually shoot where the arrows are on new highway.
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Since the tragic death of the warbirds pilot will there still be a P-40?
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Since the tragic death of the warbirds pilot will there still be a P-40?
The Airpower Museum owns a P-40 which is used in shows, but obviously the P-40 Bob was flying was destroyed in the crash.
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Since the tragic death of the warbirds pilot will there still be a P-40?
The Airpower Museum owns a P-40 which is used in shows, but obviously the P-40 Bob was flying was destroyed in the crash.
Oh, he was flying a different P-41, and not the one they use in the shows? I wonder if they can get a replacement in time, I doubt they will do that show in april.
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Since the tragic death of the warbirds pilot will there still be a P-40?
The Airpower Museum owns a P-40 which is used in shows, but obviously the P-40 Bob was flying was destroyed in the crash.
Oh, he was flying a different P-41, and not the one they use in the shows? I wonder if they can get a replacement in time, I doubt they will do that show in april.[/quote:n5w9mwgg]
There were two different P-40s based on Long Island, both of which participate in local air shows.
"The Jacky C" is owned by the American Airpower Museum, and is based at the museum at Republic. It is in a green/brown camouflage scheme, with a Flying Tigers emblem on the fuselage:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/3..._vTvUS-L-2.jpg
Warbirds Over Long Island also owned a P-40. It was painted in overall OD green, in the markings of Col. Robert Scott (of "God is My Copilot" fame). This is the aircraft Bob Baranaskas normally flew, and was the one he was flying when he crashed Sunday:
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/3..._2AYmh-L-2.jpg
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The American Airpower Museum owns several of their own flightworthy warbirds, such as a C-47, P-47, Avenger, and a P-40. Warbirds Over Long Island owns their own separate aircraft, which included their own P-40. So, we will still see the AAM birds, but it is way to early to even speculate who/what else we will see in the air.
Though, we should also be seeing another P-51 in for the Heritage Flight.
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The American Airpower Museum owns several of their own flightworthy warbirds, such as a C-47, P-47, Avenger, and a P-40. Warbirds Over Long Island owns their own separate aircraft, which included their own P-40. So, we will still see the AAM birds, but it is way to early to even speculate who/what else we will see in the air.
Though, we should also be seeing another P-51 in for the Heritage Flight.
We are having a Heritage flight?