We photograph them but could we fly one?

[/quote]This was in a strictly emergency situation scenario. I wouldn't go up and fly it unless I was the highest qualified person. I believe i could get it down with minimal injuries and structural damage, that's all. I am not a "flight sim" pilot who has only flown on FS. I am a student pilot (although haven't trained for a bit due to money). Like I said, I believe in an emergency I could do it.[/quote]

In an emergency is when you really have a hard time thinking even when you know what you are doing, much less when you have had no training in this particular airplane. In the sims when I do training, it is amazing how much you mess up during emergencies and I HAVE done it many times before in the sim, but it is really a lot to handle sometimes. Even if nothing is wrong with the airplane, just the pilots are incapacitated and cannot fly, it is still an emergency. I know you are not a "flight sim" pilot, but I am just trying to make a realistic point, and believe me, I undertand about the money and training to get your pilots license. I hate to think of how much I spent to get where I am at!

Here is something to crush your brains with in relation to flying a jet at least that I would like everyone WHO HAS NOT flown jets or at least done an introductory of sorts to flying jets and swept wing flight that you need to know. What is a Dutch Roll? And what device on jets is preventive or is assistive in preventing it I should say. And what can excite it? heheheheheheeh It does apply in light type aircraft but for the most part you won't kill yourself in a Cessna where as in a Jet you can. Also how about a Deep Stall and definition and this is without useing the cheeter tool (google)

Dutch roll is, without going into technicalities, a yaw roll. Yaw damper is the only thing that I can think of that will prevent it, And I would say that "hard" usage of the rudder would "excite it".

is a deep stall the same thing as a superstall? A superstall is basically when the tail is in the shadow of the wing, causing the elevator to not work due to lack of clean airflow... Are we talking about the same thing or is it something different?

Pretty accurate actually. No ofeense but it suprised me unless you used other resources to find it out.

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Pretty accurate actually. No ofeense but it suprised me unless you used other resources to find it out.

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What resources? I didn't use Google if that's what you were thinking ;). the knowledge of dutch roll came from flight training, about superstall (is that the same thing?), I actually learned that from hearing about the crash of the BAC 1-11 prototype, and then I did some reading up on it.... This was last year I believe.

Delta fins, like the Lear's have also prevents dutch roll and helps with stalling characteristics.

Not the 25 and the 35A ;) LOL

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Not the 25 and the 35A ;) LOL

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Oh yeah, I forgot, I must have Lear 45 on my brain. :wink:

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Delta fins, like the Lear's have also prevents dutch roll and helps with stalling characteristics.

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Delta Fins? do you mean Strakes?

On the Citation 750 ( Citation X ) the rudder utilizes a massive ( probably about 1/4 the size of the rudder ) Yaw Damper to counteract the effects of dutch roll...

The BE400 also has one but not quite as big. It is funny, it has a yaw damper but it lacks ailerons.

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Delta fins, like the Lear's have also prevents dutch roll and helps with stalling characteristics.

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Delta Fins? do you mean Strakes?

On the Citation 750 ( Citation X ) the rudder utilizes a massive ( probably about 1/4 the size of the rudder ) Yaw Damper to counteract the effects of dutch roll...

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Delta Fins. We have them on the Lear 45 and we do not call them strakes, they are called Delta Fins.