PIA introduces a new livery!!

I'm liking this new Swoosh too!

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

FAO NLovis, yes I do recall reading about PIAs 747s banned into the US too, only that airline and type. IT was quite specific. I hope what Gordon said was true, that it was lifted in Europe and perhaps that may also happen here in the US

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Originally Posted by mirrodie

I'm liking this new Swoosh too!

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

FAO NLovis, yes I do recall reading about PIAs 747s banned into the US too, only that airline and type. IT was quite specific. I hope what Gordon said was true, that it was lifted in Europe and perhaps that may also happen here in the US

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Hope so as well. We dont get enough 747's at JFK. And the term currently in Heavy Maintence i'm hoping is them stepping it up so it gets lifted here in the US

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.

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Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.

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so why are they keeping it?

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Originally Posted by Iberia A340-600

The EU completely lifted the ban in March of 2007, which included the 747-300 fleet and the A310 fleet. The A310 has become a frequent visitor to some European destinations but the most recent visit of the 747 was to LIS last summer on a charter flight. Because of the better product offered on the 777 fleet I imagine PIA does not see it a fit aircraft to operate on their key routes to Europe anymore, let alone to the US.

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so why are they keeping it?

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To use them on flights within Pakistan and to other destinations in the Middle East and India. The 747-300 made a rare appearance in MAN last week:

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6806296&nseq=16

I agree that it doesn't make sense that B777s are allowed but B742s are banned. Also, the best PIA livery was in the 80's. There was a gold cheatline in the center of the aircraft and a royal green on the tail.

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I agree that it doesn't make sense that B777s are allowed but B742s are banned. Also, the best PIA livery was in the 80's. There was a gold cheatline in the center of the aircraft and a royal green on the tail.

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First off, PIA only has 1 747-200 left in their fleet, the rest are -300s. It does make sense that the 777s would be allowed since they are much more modern aircraft with a better maintenance record.

Here is a link to the first picture of a 747-300 now painted in the revised scheme:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?i ... r5PRR.jpeg

Nice find, still looks ugly. One of the rare cases where eurowhite was better.

The livery has now been applied to a 777-200 so keep an eye out at JFK:

http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.m ... picid=6385

Looks pretty gross on the 777 IMO.

Track that tail #! If i'm making this out right XP-O?GK

That would be AP-BGK.
Glad to see they brought back the "Pakistan International" titles below the PIA.

Senga

I was looking at the shot on Skyliner Iberia posted.

My thought was the 90's livery was simpler and still looked so much better than this. Same thing with the 1980s scheme.

Sometimes fashion, sucks.

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Originally Posted by mirrodie

Great Mario's think alike, as I too immediately saw the similarity to El AL! ;)

I found it ironic considering the relationship those 2 governments have.

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..and it's not because of telepathy

PIA is govt owned right?

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Originally Posted by SengaB

To Build on what Gordon said,
FAA and its counterparts can ban types of planes instead of a whole airline. If it has been found that up keep, Maintenance or general operations are not up to FAA standards for a type of plane under an airline they can ban a type of plane from flying into the US.

Senga

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Well the FAA can be a real b**** pardon the expression, when it wants to, especially when it comes to 3rd world nations. The FAA made a big fuss about a Biman DC-10 being unsafe and made it divert to Canada. Canadian authorities found the plane to be perfectly airworthy and all the FAA did was issue an apology. Biman then pulled the NY route and who can blame them. What's ironic is WN, AA, UA, NW etc all have been caught flying aircraft in conditions that were unsafe.

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Originally Posted by Mayi757

PIA is govt owned right?

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Yep, run by the Ministry of Defence, actually.

Plans to privatize were dropped last year.