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Just got back from JFK..The pilot ESS004 (N401JS)and the controller were talking about the airline. The pilot said they have 2 remaining flights that have to come in ESS007 and a EOS charter flight.
This self described old pilot stated that this was the best airline he ever flew for.
Senga
EOS Flight #7 just landed on 13L
N403JS http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6225767
One thought I had today. With the failure of first Maxjet, and now Eos, and with Silverjet bleeding cash and on many followers of the industries failure list, and the fact that earlier US Luxury carriers such as MGM Grand Air, Air One, and McClain all failed, I don't think we may see another all luxury type such carrier for a long time. I just don't see how anyone wanting to start such a venture will be able to attract enough investors and capital to ever get off the ground.
The biggest competition Eos had IMO was not Silverjet, or BA, or Virgin but instead the Netjets of the world. Again IMO the type of clientell Eos was designed for who could afford the price of their ticket could also afford (and would prefer) and even higher fare to fly on a G4, G5, or Global Express out of TEB or HPN on their schedule, not Eos's.
Regards
LGA777
ron, i'm willing to bet that netjets (and other operators like it) is the reason EOS failed. they just offer so much more to thier customers in terms of flexability and security.Quote:
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Yep, the chief pilot also came from TWA/AA, they are DH STN-CAI, then doing the charter CAI-STN, then DH back to JFK and Eos will forever be gone/done.
As for why Eos failed, the truth of matter is loads were very well, yield was working, the business plan was working, but the combo of the fuel rising, and the fact the investor withdrew the 50 million dollars at last minute left eos scrambling and could not pay the May bill hence the expedition of filing CH11.
The flights were flight profitable and always were since 8 months after they started the flights, the 50 million they were supposed to get was to push them into COMPANY profitable by 2009. However we won't ever know that now.
Alex
I know several pilots and F/As that worked for Eos. A shame, but I think all that got involved knew that this type operation was a risk. Best wishes to them all.
As mentioned, this is the problem with catering to a niche market in a flailing economy. Definitely sad to see another great airline bite the dust, and all in such a short time period as well.
Does anyone have any guesses or actual information regarding where their 757's will end up? Are they leased or owned by EOS? Since they're ETOPS qualified birds, I would love to see them join the TATL 757 fleets of DL or NW or DLNW or other Pratt powered fleets.
Not necessarily! Our company allows business class travel across the Atlantic, but certainly not any kind of corporate jet, except in very very rare circumstances for the CEO of the American division, and higher people in our German division. We were getting ready to promote EOS as a cheaper and more efficient alternative to CO/BA/VS from EWR, as STN is closer to our London office.Quote:
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Leased. Most of them came from Aero Mexico which they themselves got from ATA.
Not sure where the birds would go.
As I said to tommy maybe wishful thinking is someone would buy the certif like max jet got and come back as full charter service.
Alex
From conversations I'm hearing, 757s are in good demand, but the Pratt engines are an issue for certain airlines that would love to grab them up (not implying my own airline).