New security measures causing travel woes

We can not bring water on an airplane!!! WOW! and as for those who
say they do not care, I DO. If I have my wife and two children on an
aircraft, I want a big bottle of water with me just in case we sit on the
ground for 3 hours!!! due to fog, snow or just a panzyass leader that is
coming in. They will not serve the drinks unless there is an overthrow by
the passengers because there will not be enough for the flight... I can
understand checking toothpaste and lotion, but water?

Oh yea, were not letting the terrorists win! We can no longer bring
bottled water on an aircraft! THEY WON ALL-READY!


I wonder if they are going to make parents drink their own breast milk
still or if that is now banned.....fcuk the kids, let them starve!!! YEA!!!

(if you could not tell, I am pissed off by this)

They're actually letting parents with young children bring up to three bottles on board. How thoughtful of them!

the whole situation is bloody disgusting.

I'm waiting for the day the TSA or government realizes that clothing is flammable....get ready for butt naked flights.

Or, well, since we are looking at suicide bombers, I wonder how easy it is to just swallow a bomb or plastic explosive and remotely detonate it from within your gut. So what then? ban flying all together?

Nude flying ! Get ready!

thats right folks, get ready for clothing to be banned at one point.

The whole response is a typical knee jerk reaction and I doubt that ban will last long.

But if it does, get ready folks. bare butt naked flying is around the corner.

Wonder how comfortable those Jble leathers seats will be then?!

Remember it's believed the female suicide bombers in Russia a couple of years ago hid the bombs up their hoohahs. Maybe we should give everyone a full cavity search.

My dad is flying JFK-MSP on Northwest at 6:20am tomorrow. I guess he'll have to leave the house before 4. :?

So here's one to ponder, in a few days or a couple of weeks when we can bring laptops and drinks back on board, what BS will the TSA and Homeland security give as to why we're allowed. Will we be any safer then? Somehow I doubt it. If this isn't the biggiest reason to can Michael Chertoff and sack the TSA I don't know what is.

and even through all this, when trying to find a pax's carry-on that wasn't claimed planeside i was forced to look through pockets for ID, and instead i found mace. interesting eh?


and there is no chance in hell that i'm checking my daughter's bottle!

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Remember it's believed the female suicide bombers in Russia a couple of years ago hid the bombs up their hoohahs.

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Please explain what a hoohah is. :wink:

When it rains, it pours....

'Hijack' Attempt Foiled
Updated: 16:59, Thursday August 10, 2006

A man has been overpowered by airline staff after trying to enter the cockpit of a Qatar Airways plane.

He was carrying a cannister of liquid in what could have been a hijack attempt.
Security officials said they did not know what was in the container.

"Just after takeoff, one of the passengers moved towards the cockpit and, when one of the flight attendants stood in his way, he hit him (the attendant)," passenger Samir Samri told the Al Jazeera TV network by telephone.

He said the man appeared to be about 20 and from an African country.

"It might not have been a hijack attempt ... he might have been mentally unstable," he said.

The flight was heading to the Qatari capital Doha from Jordan's capital, Amman, but turned back after the incident.

The man was eventually detained by Jordanian officials.

The incident came hours after the UK said it had foiled a major terror plot to blow up airplanes headed to the US.

That hijack liquid turned out to be medication, and all that happened was an argument on the plane.

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Originally Posted by Derf

Oh yea, were not letting the terrorists win! We can no longer bring
bottled water on an aircraft! THEY WON ALL-READY!

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I don't think a bottle of water off of planes is what the terrorists wanted, nor a good sign that they've won already. I think fear, which many seem to NOT be feeling today actually, is one of the goals.

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Originally Posted by Derf

I wonder if they are going to make parents drink their own breast milk
still ....

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I didn't know airlines allowed woman to to that to themselves on planes to begin with. I thought it was only available on websites that I pay $5.95 a month for.

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Originally Posted by Jonesbeach

They're actually letting parents with young children bring up to three bottles on board. How thoughtful of them!

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They are also allowing medication with proof of what's inside. I think that's logical and fair given the circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Mirrodie

I'm waiting for the day the TSA or government realizes that clothing is flammable

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But it's not explosive, which is what the concern is.

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Originally Posted by T-Bird76

So here's one to ponder, in a few days or a couple of weeks when we can bring laptops and drinks back on board....

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We're allowed to bring them on board NOW. We just can't bring liquids on. Only in England can they not have any carry-on...from what I've been reading on the news.


I am really shocked that people are getting upset over the procedures that are being practiced today. What is so bad about it? A little more time before your flight? Big deal. These safety measures won't be in place for that long I'm sure.

I think people should be happy that this plot was foiled instead of only talking about the negativity. I've yet to read anyone praise the intelligence agencies involved for being on top of ****.

The same government that is being accused of being stupid with this...is the same government's agencies that saved thsouands of lives by preventing the attack.

Many of the people complaining now, are the same who would be pointing fingers at the government if the attacks had been carried out.

I also ask you all what measures the airports SHOULD be taking these days that they aren't.

I agree with Phil as well.

I mean guys, you don't need your cell phone on board, nor do you u need your laptop. its a conviencey yes, but come on, you always wanted to go back to the old days of traveling, where you had no IFE, you could stare out the window, hear the engine vibrate, talk to your seatmate, learn something new about them, read the magazines provided on board.

Based on all these rules anyway I see no difference from what i do, I dont have an ipod or a laptop, so thats out, i never carry liquid on board anyway because I know I will get it on my flight.

CNN confirmed they are NOT making women drink their forumals, but it will be searched.

So good job to the gov't for possibly saving many lives.

Alex

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14286217/

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Fact file Airport security measures

The Transportation Security Administration instituted the following measures after a terror plot in Britain was thwarted:

Liquids are banned from carry-on luggage and cannot be taken through security checkpoints. That includes drinks, toothpaste, perfume, shampoo, hair gel, suntan lotion and similar items. Drinks purchased in the airport cannot be carried onto flights.

Medications will be allowed but must be presented for inspection at security checkpoints.

Mothers can bring baby formula on board, but only after drinking it in front of security officials first.

All shoes must be removed and placed on an X-ray belt for screening.

Passengers are also asked to arrive at least two hours early to allow for additional screening.

Passengers traveling to the United Kingdom should contact their airline for information about any extra security measures or precautions that might be required. Laptop computers, mobile phones and iPods are among items banned on British flights.

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Originally Posted by Phil D.

I am really shocked that people are getting upset over the procedures that are being practiced today. What is so bad about it? A little more time before your flight? Big deal. These safety measures won't be in place for that long I'm sure.

I think people should be happy that this plot was foiled instead of only talking about the negativity. I've yet to read anyone praise the intelligence agencies involved for being on top of ****.

The same government that is being accused of being stupid with this...is the same government's agencies that saved thsouands of lives by preventing the attack.

Many of the people complaining now, are the same who would be pointing fingers at the government if the attacks had been carried out.

I also ask you all what measures the airports SHOULD be taking these days that they aren't.

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Welcome to the new world Phil, complain about a situation, no matter what happens.

As you said, a Hijacking was stopped, and for a period of time, we will be inconvienced for a little while, we can all survive with the increased security....

I agree that it's a good measure to not allow outside drinks, etc on the plane...but to ban drinks bought inside the airport seems out of line. If they are bought passed security, and from an airport vendor, how can they not be safe?

Also, it does say that mother's are asked to drink the formula...a lot of new mothers put breast milk in those bottles, therefore making them drink their own breastmilk. It's just a bit weird.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with the extra precautions, I just think the above points are a bit out of line.

Unfortunately it will be more than just a little time in the security lines. People are still going to bring gigantic wheelaboard carry-ons chock full of liquids, slowing things drastically. Especially with it being LGA tomorrow for me, the TSA will be slow and the passengers will be even slower. I'm leaving the house at 6:30 for my 9:30 flight just to make sure.

I hate people with those huge rollaboard bags, but sometimes a carry-onn is necessary. Overnight business trips or trips with extremely tight connections or inter-airline connections deem it safer to carry bags on rather than check them. You can guarantee Acela will be getting more business this week.