What ever happened to Polar Air Cargo Presence at JFK

[SengaB]

Whatever happend to this site at JFK? Not too long ago PAC 747s were a common sight at JFK now they are basically non existant (Atlas too). PAC is owned by GTI (Atlas Air). Have they just decided to phase PAC out? I heard this roumor 3 years ago but am not sure it ever happened. If we are lucky we might get one a week now. Also the PAC/GTI ramp has been serverly under utilized for a now whats going on with that?
http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/pac01.jpg

Senga

[h2opunk1822]

i was actually wondering the same thing.. i go down that road every night to head back to the parking lot.. and for as long as i can remember im used to seeing the 74's peeking over the building.. but now.. i haven't seen a plane there in a few weeks.. like every now and then.. but not like its been.. i would love to know too

[hiss srq]

I beleive there was a little fleet consolidation if I am not mistaken. I will ask my parents... They deal pretty heavily with Atlas and I know that they own Polar.

[LGA777]

DHG750R will probably update us all on this shortly as he is in the know.

LGA777

[SengaB]

Oh ok thats good,
I have noticed when GTI, PAC come in now the single plane always parks on the Lufthansa Cargo/EL AL Cargo ramp.

Senga

[Iberia A340-600]

Oh ok thats good,
I have noticed when GTI, PAC come in now the single plane always parks on the Lufthansa Cargo/EL AL Cargo ramp.

Senga

That would be the chartered Qantas Atlas Air flight.

[SengaB]

Possibly, but some of them are arriving under GTI and PAC codes. The The atlast leases are flying under the QFA.

Senga

[hiss srq]

According to their schedule now the only times you will see them are on Wednesday twice and Saturday twice one to PIK and the other to AMS each on those days. Otherwise that familiar titan will be all you see if the schedule on the site is updated.

[SengaB]

We have one arriving today
Amsterdam Polar Air Cargo 811 05:57 PM In Flight
747-400

An unfortunate thing to all of this is that we lost a large fleet of 747-100s. By PAC not having theirs now it cut the ones that are still in service by at least half.

Senga

[Matt Molnar]

Kalitta FTW!

[njgtr82]

an Atlas 747 came into EWR today with that paint scheme with no letters or designs... just white with a blue tail

[DHG750R]

That is building 87 at JFK which we (unfortunately) gave back when the lease ended in favor of some smaller digs over at Bulding 23 , there arent nearly as many parking spots available to us, Although occasionally we are still allowed to park aircraft there if the Port allows. This all was part of a bigger plan which would have given us access to 1 bay of Hangar 19 . Im not sure if or when building 87 will be occupied ( or by who although I have heard either DHL or UPS)

The Polar schedule has dramatically reduced over the last 18 months , I wouldnt look for that to change anytime soon

Of course Atlas parks in various places depending on who we fly for , QF and EK over at NCA ... etc

[DHG750R]

Oh yea , almost forgot . The 1 remaining 747-100F was parked back in the summer.A major check was due . The remaining 5 -200's have also been disposed of ( sold / subleased )

You can find some at Southern , Tradewinds , MK and one other start up Sky Express

[h2opunk1822]

apparently there old spot has become the new home of evergreen aviation... when i drive by, at night on the way back to 141.. on the road side and the aviation side.. there is evergreen signs everywhere.. so by the looks of it.. there leaving there current spot and moving into the old polar/atlas area!!!

[Ari707]

Saw an Atlas Air on Approach to JFK about 8:10 this morning

[DHG750R]

Saw an Atlas Air on Approach to JFK about 8:10 this morning
That was the Emirates 9901 from GOT

[Delta777LR]

I miss seeing Polar Air Cargo at JFK. the last time i saw a Polar Air Cargo was late 2005 which was the same aircraft that over ran the runway back in early 2005. reg: N921FT

[SengaB]

Heres 921FT the day after it overran the runway.
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/p/PAC_N921FT_JFK_12404-01.jpg.68853.jpg

Senga

[njgtr82]

wow that thing looks like hell, was it returned to service eventually?

[Iberia A340-600]

wow that thing looks like hell, was it returned to service eventually?

Flying for Sky Express Cargo now.

[SengaB]

Bill,
Yes they flew it until they dropped it from their fleet. This one was ALWAYS dirty for some reason. I saw it over the last 10 years here and there and never was it clean-always extreamly dirty.

Senga

[Jonesbeach]

It looks like Evergreen has finally taken over the old Polar Air building. The building was all lit up this morning and an Evergreen 747 was parked in one of the slots.

[kc2aqg]

I was listening to the liveatc.net feed at JFK when the Polar 8407incident happened and I saved the archive file. I'll try to figure out how to post it, it was a really interesting listen.